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ian505050
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Scrapped Car Question and Cheque Question Reply with quote

My friend called a scrap car collection company.

They turned up and gave him a cheque about a month ago for £150.00.

The cheque did not clear and my friend has forgot who the company was who collected the car. The bank said the account had been closed that the payment was due from.

Will the bank be able to provide details from the cheque that they have at the bank?

Any suggestions?

We gave the scrap car collection company the V5.
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

So now he has no car, £150 down, and is still responsible for vehicle as the scrappy won't update the V5?
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

PhilDawson8270 wrote:
So now he has no car, £150 down, and is still responsible for vehicle as the scrappy won't update the V5?


Yup, i think so.

Can Bank or the DVLA provide a name of the company who have the car?

I am scratching my head on how this can be sorted.
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 12 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, because as far as the documents say, your mate is still the registered keeper.

Have the bank returned the cheque? It should have the account holders name on it.
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PostPosted: 02:33 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was your mate, i'd contact the DVLA straight away and tell them the circumstance and that he's no longer in possession of the vehicle to save any unnecessary fines coming to his front door.

The only thing I can think of, is to google local scrap yards and see if anything rings a bell, such as the location or name of the scrap yard.
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PostPosted: 04:20 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

No the bank will not give out account holder details.
Cheque has the account holders name on it. So get it back. Then check that against the phone call history.

Why he no have a receipt. Scrap rules are very keen now and the car should have been registered as scrap by the company and your friend given a copy of this as proof.
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PostPosted: 07:21 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Re: Scrapped Car Question and Cheque Question Reply with quote

ian505050 wrote:
Any suggestions?

Invent a time machine.

Go back in time 1 month.

Tell the pikeys "Cash or GTFO".

Fill in and send off the V5C yourself, recorded delivery or at a minimum get free proof of posting.

(or, as above, get the cheque back and tell the DVLA).
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PostPosted: 08:22 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he called from his mobile, look back through the call history and you should find the phone number. Skim the adverts for local scrappies until you find one that the number matches.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
If he called from his mobile, look back through the call history and you should find the phone number. Skim the adverts for local scrappies until you find one that the number matches.



Or phone bill (assuming not a PAYG) of mobile or landline.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

report the car stolen
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

duhawkz wrote:
report the car stolen


How did it get this far down before that... Stolen! It may've been a con rather than a smash'n'grab but it's stolen. With the crime ref number you should get some leeway with the DVLA.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, as said above, report the car stolen. And this is another prime example of why I never accept a cheque.

Also the fact they gave you £50 more than the scrapyard rang a bell for me. The scrapyard's have only gave me between £60 and £100 for cars, and they were saloons.
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got £175 for an old mondeo so price is about right.

report the car stolen will achieve nothing, its in the crusher by now. chalk it up to experience. scrap men = untrustworthy.
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keir wrote:
I got £175 for an old mondeo so price is about right.

report the car stolen will achieve nothing, its in the crusher by now. chalk it up to experience. scrap men = untrustworthy.


it'll cover your ass in case the dvla come knocking trying to fine you for no tax or (assuming it's running) gets seen flying through a speed camera/running over some kid etc...
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cash is king, especially if you're dealing with pikeys. Laughing

I wouldn't have thought tracking down the details of the pikeys he sold it to would be worth it as he's got no receipt or proof of anything.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got £200 for a messed up Xsara Picasso. £150 was a rip off even before he got ripped off.

He's never seeing that money, the best he can do is avoid a pummelling from the DVLA.

Personally I think I might recall that I had in fact sent them the V5C myself, and would chase them up to ask what happened to the acknowledgement. They do say to wait 4 weeks or so, so now's the time to do it.
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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3. Scrap your car

You must scrap your car at an authorised treatment facility (ATF) if its reached the end of its life and you no longer want to keep it. It can then be handled and dismantled in an environmentally friendly way.


You can only get an authentic Certificate of Destruction (CoD) from an ATF. You could still be liable for traffic offence penalties or vehicle tax if you don’t have a CoD when your vehicle’s scrapped.

You should ask the company collecting your scrap vehicle which ATF your car is going to and make sure that they’ll arrange for that ATF to provide a CoD.

Find an ATF in:
England and Wales
Scotland
Northern Ireland

You should keep section 9 of the car’s registration certificate (V5C) and send it to the DVLA to tell them you’ve scrapped your car.

The CoD is proof that you’ve handed over the vehicle for scrap and you’re not responsible for it any more. The ATF will tell DVLA that you’re no longer responsible for the vehicle.


Anything less and you could be in trouble.

When I scrapped mine I got the CoD and watched the guy do it online with a copy of the screen grab.
He said that it had to be done that way and that was 6 years ago.[/quote]
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go here: https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

Type in the vehicle registration and make, if it's still on there after a month of being "scrapped" a CoD notice hasn't been issued.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

On further thought, I think I might recall having simply sold my vehicle to the pikeys and sent off the V5C on that basis, without the issue of "scrapping" coming up. Once it's theirs, it's not your problem what they do (or don't do) with it, right?
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 13 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
On further thought, I think I might recall having simply sold my vehicle to the pikeys and sent off the V5C on that basis, without the issue of "scrapping" coming up. Once it's theirs, it's not your problem what they do (or don't do) with it, right?



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