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TheBudhaaa
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PostPosted: 07:40 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Full opened NSR go just 135 km/h Reply with quote

Hi guys, my English is really bad, I'm from Czech. Smile
Look, I opened everything on my NSR 125 R (1997) and my max. speed was just 135 km/h.
This I have on my NSR:

Original exhaust without that sh*t in it (opened)
CDI opened
TV 78
Under the flange of the carburettor is nothing
In damper of the caburettor is nothing
AirBox is out --> Malossi filter
New nozzles
Strangler is adjusted
Limiters are out
Candle Iridium
Rosette is original

Help me please, I want be faster! Sad
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PostPosted: 07:52 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1198
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PostPosted: 08:05 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

135kph is about 85mph? Seems fair for a NSR 125 in my opinion?
I'd say that you're pretty much at the limit of what it can give - if you want more speed - and who doesn't! - there's a need for more cubes!
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no replacement for displacement.... Or if you're a larger lad get your self down to fat fighters to get you a few more kphs!
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

1198 wrote:
135kph is about 85mph? Seems fair for a NSR 125 in my opinion?



No way they should reach 100mph. I don't understand why you've fiddled with the CDI as far as I know it's just a case of removing a washer from the carb & exhaust on the NSRs. Get rid of the stupid iridium plug (candle as you call it) & do a compression test. For more answers go here-> https://www.nsr125.co.uk/index.php
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Full opened NSR go just 135 km/h Reply with quote

TheBudhaaa wrote:
Hi guys, my English is really bad, I'm from Czech. Smile
Look, I opened everything on my NSR 125 R (1997) and my max. speed was just 135 km/h.
This I have on my NSR:

Original exhaust without that sh*t in it (opened)
CDI opened
TV 78
Under the flange of the carburettor is nothing
In damper of the caburettor is nothing
AirBox is out --> Malossi filter
New nozzles
Strangler is adjusted
Limiters are out
Candle Iridium
Rosette is original

Help me please, I want be faster! Sad


How old are you? If close to 18, then do not invest any money into that money pit. Just wait a bit and then you can get whatever A2 friendly bike you want. Go to motoinzerce.cz or motorkari.cz set the search engine to 35kw and check the bikes there. You can have whatever ZXR, TL's, CBR's, CB's, CBF's, FZR's, GSXR's, GSF's and so on, for around 30-40k CZK. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should be able to get 100mph from it in full power form, i'm assuming they are pretty similar to my old rg. Full power sports 125's need lots and lots of tlc......... start saving for thr re-build now!
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TheBudhaaa
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lot of my friends done only that, what I wrote and their speed is much better then my. Normal full opened NSR go 175 km/h, opening cost me only 2000CZK (100$). BTW at that page https://www.nsr125.co.uk/ I wrote, nobody helped me. So I wrote here, maybe if I buy some better chain kit, I can reach my dream speed. Very Happy

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PostPosted: 10:27 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBudhaaa wrote:
Normal full opened NSR go 175 km/h


They won't go that fast. Indicated 160kmh really.

TheBudhaaa wrote:
So I wrote here, maybe if I buy some better chain kit


What rpm are you doing @ 135kmh? What size sprockets are you running?

All the best

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PostPosted: 10:39 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could get smaller front wheel to make the speedo show a bit more. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I said 85 was the top speed I meant in a real world type situation - maybe given a huge long runway or straight flat motorway / road it will crack 100, but on a normal road where you're squirting between corners I'd say 85 would be a realistic top speed. My derestricted rgf125 would touch 100 - but it took forever for the last few mph!
Cracking bike though. I'd have it back tomorrow - especially now it wouldn't be my only means of transport and it's mileage led taste for top ends wouldn't be as often!
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and 175kph is 110mph. Even the Cagiva Mitos and Aprillia RSs were flat out at the ton!
Ah, good times....
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

1198 wrote:
Oh, and 175kph is 110mph. Even the Cagiva Mitos and Aprillia RSs were flat out at the ton!
Ah, good times....


Weren't the Mitos and RS's indicating 120's and 130's lol
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

SQL wrote:
1198 wrote:
Oh, and 175kph is 110mph. Even the Cagiva Mitos and Aprillia RSs were flat out at the ton!
Ah, good times....


Weren't the Mitos and RS's indicating 120's and 130's lol


Well, that depends, there are videos where they do 125mph, but is the speedo calibrated enough? I mean, if you get different profile of the tire, it'll indicated more speed on the speedo. Hence my advice about getting a smaller front wheel.
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean they say 120-130 on the speedo, they are doing 100.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sprockets are 14 / 35
rpm on 6 are 10,000 I think
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Full opened NSR go just 135 km/h Reply with quote

TheBudhaaa wrote:
Hi guys, my English is really bad, I'm from Czech. Smile
Look, I opened everything on my NSR 125 R (1997) and my max. speed was just 135 km/h.
This I have on my NSR:

Original exhaust without that sh*t in it (opened)
CDI opened
TV 78
Under the flange of the carburettor is nothing
In damper of the caburettor is nothing
AirBox is out --> Malossi filter
New nozzles
Strangler is adjusted
Limiters are out
Candle Iridium
Rosette is original

Help me please, I want be faster! Sad


Can't help at all but that is very funny
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Full opened NSR go just 135 km/h Reply with quote

gavbriggs wrote:
TheBudhaaa wrote:
Hi guys, my English is really bad, I'm from Czech. Smile
Look, I opened everything on my NSR 125 R (1997) and my max. speed was just 135 km/h.
This I have on my NSR:

Original exhaust without that sh*t in it (opened)
CDI opened
TV 78
Under the flange of the carburettor is nothing
In damper of the caburettor is nothing
AirBox is out --> Malossi filter
New nozzles
Strangler is adjusted
Limiters are out
Candle Iridium
Rosette is original

Help me please, I want be faster! Sad


Can't help at all but that is very funny


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PostPosted: 19:23 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:33 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBudhaaa wrote:
Sprockets are 14 / 35
rpm on 6 are 10,000 I think


14:35 gearing at 10000rpm in 6th gear should give you about 150~155kmh. If you are only managing 135kmh then either that is not the sprocket sizes you have, or the speedo is reading wrong or the something else is strange (clutch slipping maybe).

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:41 - 25 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
TheBudhaaa wrote:
Sprockets are 14 / 35
rpm on 6 are 10,000 I think


14:35 gearing at 10000rpm in 6th gear should give you about 150~155kmh. If you are only managing 135kmh then either that is not the sprocket sizes you have, or the speedo is reading wrong or the something else is strange (clutch slipping maybe).

All the best

Keith


I don't think the clutch is slipping, speedo reading bad I know ---> +10 km/h
So my speedo shows 145 km/h, I found it on radars Smile
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 27 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to mention,
you have modified the air intake side (replaced the air box?).
Mr Honda certainly knew a thing or two when putting this bike together and the air/fuel is particularly important.
My Nsr will crack a ton and all that was done was remove the intake restriction and exhaust restriction however it was a UK model.
Other models may require a the CDI to be replaced/modified.

Get the original air box on there, check the jetting of the carb and get back to us!

I rode de-restricted for 4 years on the NSR, the engine gave me very little trouble tbh. An extremely reliable sports 125 2 stroke (excluding the regulators of course!).

Best regards

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PostPosted: 10:27 - 27 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't NSR have ram air intake? Thinking
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 27 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope.
It has ram air intake pipes but they are for aesthetics only.
The air box does not connect up to them.

There is a mod in which you drill some large holes, pipe the air tubes into the air box as covered in alanins 'NSRTips.doc' however I suspect you would need to alter the jetting to take advantage of this.

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PostPosted: 11:00 - 27 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you did that, you'd need to set the carburetor to rich mixture, very rich, so it could work at high speed when the amount of air is noticeably increased. I don't know if my ZXR works 100% right, but the mixture is quite rich, to compensate the amount of air coming through when it's going very fast. DFi and double throttle on modern bikes definitely solves that.
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