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PostPosted: 20:27 - 31 May 2014    Post subject: Credit Card Advice? Reply with quote

Alright lads,

Basically, I'm going away to France in err 2 weeks time

And I've been told it's best to use cash or a credit card and avoid using your accounts linked to your bank/savings. (Fraud etc)

(Also have a fat hotel deposit to make - rather use a card..)

Could anyone shed some light on the matter - I don't really know how they work.

What's the best one to go for? If it's 0% for 18 months, does that mean I can use it just like a bank card? But it's 'safer' because if it's fraud it won't come out your savings?

Also, can you quit? Or does this leave a black mark to your name.

Can I get one within 2 weeks? Laughing

Thanking you!

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PostPosted: 20:52 - 31 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got one for New York. Seemed like a sensible idea instead of carrying a huge wad of cash. Purchases made on it over £100 are insured too I believe.

Make sure it has no overseas load fees etc for purchases. I picked up the Halifax Clarity card. Post Office is good too.

Use it, pay it off when you get home. Even if there's no '0% for x months' promotion its fine as long as you pay it off within 56 days of the first purchase you make on it (double check this grace period in your small print, usually 28 days until first bill, then another 28 to pay it)

Avoid cash withdrawls on credit cards (in general) as they charge load fees AND interest from the minute you take it out. Take some cash for small purchases.

No need to 'quit' when you're finished with it. Just zero it and keep it in a drawer for your next holiday, or cut it up, whatever.

Apply online, get a decision and it'll arrive within 5 days usually.

Try the moneysavingexpert credit card eligibility checker to do a 'soft' check of your probability of being accepted for a range of cards, because if you apply directly to a bank and get declined it's bad for your rating.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 31 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could get a prepaid card, I use one for buying stuff online and making sure I've always got a bit of spare dosh on me.

They normally have a ceiling on them (mine is £1500) but you can load on any amount up to that, in a number of different ways, including electronic bank transfer, so if you're registered for internet banking, you can top it up with your smartphone.

Because it's not an actual credit card, there's no credit check, you just apply and they send you one, takes a couple of days.

Use a money expert type site to compare the different ones, the main differences are the top up fees; mine is from Kalixa and it's free to top up electronically, but you can buy top up vouchers at Paypoint outlets and you get charged a fee for using those.
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PostPosted: 06:36 - 01 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben90 wrote:
I've got one for New York. Seemed like a sensible idea instead of carrying a huge wad of cash. Purchases made on it over £100 are insured too I believe.

Make sure it has no overseas load fees etc for purchases. I picked up the Halifax Clarity card. Post Office is good too.

Use it, pay it off when you get home. Even if there's no '0% for x months' promotion its fine as long as you pay it off within 56 days of the first purchase you make on it (double check this grace period in your small print, usually 28 days until first bill, then another 28 to pay it)

Avoid cash withdrawls on credit cards (in general) as they charge load fees AND interest from the minute you take it out. Take some cash for small purchases.

No need to 'quit' when you're finished with it. Just zero it and keep it in a drawer for your next holiday, or cut it up, whatever.

Apply online, get a decision and it'll arrive within 5 days usually.

Try the moneysavingexpert credit card eligibility checker to do a 'soft' check of your probability of being accepted for a range of cards, because if you apply directly to a bank and get declined it's bad for your rating.


I agree with this only a tiny bit different.

The only bit I would change in the above is the paying off part. If you have an 18 month 0% interest then use it until it is maxed out Pay for everything on it. When the statement comes through pay the minimum every month but, and this is the important bit, Keep the funds in your bank to pay it off fully. When the 18 month grace period is finished and they want to start charging you interest then pay the whole lot off from the money you have in the bank.

Its called stoozing. Basically it is using that 0% time to earn you money and it does work. We've been doing it for years. All the while that money is sitting in your account it is earning you interest. Just make sure you pay the minimum each month and have the money in the bank. Do not be tempted to spend the card money you keep.
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PostPosted: 06:36 - 01 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get any reputable one with no annual fee.

Don't spend more than you can pay off when you get home.

Pay it all off on your return and cut it up and bin it.
Don't keep 'for emergencies'. You'll end up finding excuses for emergencies!!

I used a credit card for a holiday to Tobago once and then kept using it. It was like a stone round my neck.
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PostPosted: 07:52 - 01 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asda credit card. 1% cash back on Asda purchases including petrol. 1/2% Cash back from anywhere else and good rates of interest.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 01 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:


I agree with this only a tiny bit different.

The only bit I would change in the above is the paying off part. If you have an 18 month 0% interest then use it until it is maxed out Pay for everything on it. When the statement comes through pay the minimum every month but, and this is the important bit, Keep the funds in your bank to pay it off fully. When the 18 month grace period is finished and they want to start charging you interest then pay the whole lot off from the money you have in the bank.

Its called stoozing. Basically it is using that 0% time to earn you money and it does work. We've been doing it for years. All the while that money is sitting in your account it is earning you interest. Just make sure you pay the minimum each month and have the money in the bank. Do not be tempted to spend the card money you keep.

Yes, because that 2.7p you earn in interest is worth the time.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 01 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tungtvann wrote:
Yes, because that 2.7p you earn in interest is worth the time.


Couldn't agree more. The interest you'll earn is bugger all, but if you miss that payment date you'll be kicking yourself when you get charged. Keep it simple and pay the debt off.

Credit cards are useful as you're covered with insurance on purchases, and in my experience not all overseas petrol stations recognise debit cards, but credit cards (Visa) have always worked for me.
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 01 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second the prepay card thing. FairFX do a Euro card which works exactly the same way as a debit card, except you decide how much to put on it before you go and have to top it up if you spend more than you bargained for. You get a card and a PIN and they turn up within a few days. As you pay out the money straight away you don't have to be approved for anything either, bonus!

I'm going to Europeland with some mates at the beginning of August and this is what I intend to do.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 01 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

jnw010 wrote:
Tungtvann wrote:
Yes, because that 2.7p you earn in interest is worth the time.


Couldn't agree more. The interest you'll earn is bugger all, but if you miss that payment date you'll be kicking yourself when you get charged. Keep it simple and pay the debt off..


Oddly enough we've calculated our flat rate interest gain on our card works out at £50 for the year and we've 15 months interest free. Added to that compound interest so it will be a little more.

From where I am sitting that money is a bit like someone coming up to you in the street and saying "here have £50." Its better in my account than not getting it from paying off a 0% interest every month. Why have no interest if you are not willing to use it?

If you are savvy with your money and pay off when the interest period is over with then you can make money. We are making a little. But in this day and age, a little is better than none.
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 01 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of points.

You may find that hotels and such that pre auth a card. Will not take pre-pay cards.

if you use pay at the pump in Europe. Be prepared to lose 120 Euro's from your available balance. They auth for that amount and only adjust to the correct amount on debit.
UK is £1 or £2 and then debit for the correct amount.
So for a biker that covers a lot of miles in a day, with a small tank better have a good balance in their account.
Or just pay in store..

Credit card interest rate say 20%
Savings interest max3%.

WTF do people not pay the balance off, when they have the funds in the savings acc... Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 02 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the help lads.

Just done the deed and been accepted.

Will be just for emergencies ect, nice one! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 03 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:


Credit card interest rate say 20%
Savings interest max3%.

WTF do people not pay the balance off, when they have the funds in the savings acc... Twisted Evil


Because they are silly. At the moment for our next 12 months or so we have left on the wifes newest card it is:

Bank interest =3%
Card interest = 0%

Full balance of card is sitting in our bank account earning us 3% and on the last month of our 0% deal we will pay the entire amount off and never use it again.
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