Cat C - flood damage?

[footlong8]

following a recent post - i am now in the market for a Triumph Daytona. i was looking for a used model to keep costs down - until i saw this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Daytona-675-ABS-2014-New-0-miles-/171347053789?_trksid=p2054897.l4275

a category C right off due to show room flooding... should i be wary? i find myself wanting it!!
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[arry]

You'd need to know what damage it's done......

Kingston Upon Thames was heavily under water in January so it could have been up past its cylinder head in sewage

[Aff]

You would need to have a good look to see how high the water got.

This line worries me:

[arry]

[footlong8]

yeah thats why this forum is useful - just stopped me doing something rash!
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[Kickstart]

Hi

I wouldn't assume that (although possible).

I suspect that on a new bike where there is a warranty to maintain the would right it off when there was any concern about damage (ie, budgeting for an engine strip, new cat, etc).

Price seems to be going up and with 2 days to go I suspect it won't be a bargain by the end of the auction.

All the best

Keith
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[Kickstart]

[Shaft]

If it's been standing in flood water, up to it's exhaust (the only way water could get in) then they've made a remarkable job of cleaning it, the ally fittings and chain are mint.

Also, what's the warranty situation?

Regardless of it's insurance write off status, it should still have the balance of it's factory warranty, unless they wriggled out of it by registering it after it was written off.

Edit: crossfire post
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[chris-red]

Can't see why the warrenty wouldn't apply when I took my Triumph in for warranty work I was the second owner, they looked at the plate and got one with the work. I can;t see it being struck off or anything.

I'd budget for new wheel/swingarm bearings which probably wouldn't be covered and got for it.
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[j.silvs]

Warranty wouldn't cover anything that has been touched by the water damage.

If a claim were to be made then the owner would have to prove that the damage is not from water but by manufactures fault. I reckon would be a hard thing to do

[moonzoomer]

I notice from the sellers feedback that they have recently had dealings with Karcher the powerwash people and MDS to buy a battery, where is the battery located on these bikes cos if the new battery for for this bike why did it need to be replaced (water level or maybe shorts in the electrical system ) which could give an indication of how high the flooding was.

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

I did see that on ebay, decided it was more hassle that it was worth.
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[Timmeh]

The surface corrosion and pitting on the edge of the discs, and the fact that I can see rust on the rear caliper banjo would suggest to me that the water got well above the exhaust.

If you want to know how bad the flooding was, find out where the shop is and google for kingston flood pics.
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[Carvel]

As Tim said there are witness marks on the rear banjo bolt and bleed nipple so the calipers been off. Its been in the exhaust so i'd be considering damage to the cat and abs sensors etc. Could be a nightmare.
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[Moo.]

I go to university in Kingston.. the only motorbike shows i know of are J&S in New Malden, and Tippets Honda in Surbiton/Tolworth. And these are well away from the Thames

Can't say i've seen a Triumph dealer about..


Also, pictures look like an Underground car park which is next to Bus station on Fairfield road..
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[Shaft]

[SQL]

I thought the nearest was in Croydon? Carl Rosner?

[Kickstart]

Hi

Quick google and it suggests Laguana Motorcycles were flooded.

From this thread elsewhere it suggests that one bike storage area had been into 2.5 meters of water.

All the best

Keith
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[stinkwheel]

We had experience of this over here when Carlisle flooded. The entire Suzuki and triumph main dealers was totally under water for 2 days.

1) The bikes came out clean as a whistle. Like even the second hand ones, it was like they'd been concourse-prepped.

2) Many of them are still on the go BUT someone was on the ball and as soon as the water droped had doner a deal for them, hauled them out and drained the oil and fuel systyems in an old hanger with space heaters. As soon as they were vaguely dry, they got the fuel system flushed through slung cheap oil in them and kept running them up to temperature and changing it until it came out clear and emulsion-free. Just a hanger full of idling motorcycles.

It took a lot longer to get them fully dry. They had to remove light lenses and drill small holes in the clock housings to let the condensation out.

All the bikes had at least two filters and four oil-changes in the first few days after they were pulled out and most of them are still being run locally. There was concern about silt in the engines but it seems like the filter caught it all. You still see an odd one with a tidemark in the clocks.

My mate bought an H100 that had been flooded at a second hand bike dealers in Carlisle. Crankcases were full of muddy water so we took the engine out and turned it upside down to drain it. We then flushed it out with several changes of diesel followed by petrol followed by petrol premix. Runs fine, still has silt in the flashers and clocks.

So. A flooded bike CAN be ok, but it depends on how it was treated immediately after the flood. Extreme cleanness can be a sign it wa full immersed in running water.
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[EazyDuz]

Probably a turd or 2 in the exhaust pipe, I'd steer clear
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[iooi]

Interesting that people are focusing on the engine...

What about all the bearings, chain, electrics & other parts. As we all know bike frames are not the best protected in the world from the outside, never mind the inside..... So just what damage ie rust is going to be coming in the future. That you cannot see....
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