Attempted Theft.

[Dave70]

So, having been back in the good old UK for around three weeks, some sh!t bag has tried to have it away with my bike.

I only noticed when I realised the steering lock is no more. The thick cuts appear to have not noticed the alarmed disc lock on the rear. At least this is what I presume has halted them in their tracks and why I still have a bike.

Anyway, I went straight to the nearest bike shop and bought another disc alarm. It's an Oxford Boss alarm. It was basically the best one they had in and cost 85 quid but, it's a small price to pay, if it helps to stop it from being nicked although, it seems to have mixed reviews online.

So, a couple of questions.

Is their likely to be any other damage caused by someone breaking the steering lock and anything I should look for. I've had a look over the bike and all else appears well. I've also held the front wheel between my legs and tried to move the bars and all is well on that front.

Secondly, As far as security goes, I now have a chain and lock through the rear wheel. As well as an alarmed disc lock on the rear. (Can't remember the make). And now I also have the Oxford Boss alarm through the front disc. The bike is parked on the road but, there's an option of putting it round the back ally way, which has "locked" ally gates. Apparently though, the gates can be lifted and opened without a key, if you know how to.

So I am thinking that maybe it's best to keep it locked up on the road (nothing to actually chain it to though) as it's more visible to neighbours and passing public, rather than round the back ally where it's more hidden and probably less likely to attract attention should someone try to tamper with it.

Oh....and any more ideas for improved security measures are very welcome indeed. I did consider wiring up a couple of hand grenades to the bike but, I figured that this would unfortunately damage the bike too.

[Conzar]

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Paint grenades might be a bit more acceptable? Just don't forget yourself!
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[Baffler186]

Point well made about it being on the street, yes it's more visible but that also means it's more visible if someone's trying to tamper with it. However, if there's nothing on the street to fix it to, it's relatively easy to lift it into a van even if there's 10 disc locks on it.

Ground anchor, alarmed disc locks, meaty chains. Not much else you can do really. And also ensuring that you are complying with everything on your Insurers checklist in case you need to make a claim. Maybe take pics of locks, receipts for locks, in case you need them again.

As for damage - wait for further replies, but I'd guess check wiring looms, alignment of forks, any play on head bearings. They probably sat back on the seat and used their legs to break it (I've seen it done on CCTV footage and it made my blood boil )
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[stevo as b4]

If you park the bike in a private back alley, that is only an access to your property/garden then I'd do one of two things:

1, Make it very difficult for the thieves to even get into the alley way, big wooden or steel gates with many locks, and sharp pointed spikes on the top of the gate to stop anyone climbing them. Add to this if it's at all possible make it so that you cannot see the bike from the entrance to the alley. Even if you have to put plywood sheeting or old crates around it.

2, The other option is to make it easy to get into the alley way, but then have the gates shut and lock behind them, so that the bastards can't get out. harder to do and potential for accidently injuring someone innocent, unless you booby trap the bike with some sort of device or alarm?

[Rogerborg]

This is why we can't have nice things.

Anything to chain it to in the alley? Can you put in a ground anchor? Bin full of cement? Can you put an alarmed padlock on the gates?
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[Dave70]

[Northern Monkey]

[Mario_Kempes]

The best anti theft tactic is to be next to a better, more easily nickable bike.

[Joncrete Cungle]

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[Rogerborg]

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[dydey90]

Are there any drainage grates near where you leave the bike? You could chain it to one of those.
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[Dave70]

After weighing everything up, I'm currently thinking that my best bet is to fit a ground anchor round the back ally.

Even though the scum never managed to get the bike, it's still costing me a few hundred quid in added security, plus I'm going to have to put my bike in to be checked. Even though it seems fine, apart from having no steering lock, more for piece of mind than anything. I don't fancy riding along one day and suddenly have the steering go on me.

Thieving little bastards should be dragged for a mile face first along a gravelled road.

[willis1337]

Why not chain it to the gates? Are they metal? I appreciate that they come off but it'd be bloody awkward to lift the bike and gate into a van. Would at least slow them down to have to cut locks / gate.

Personally I would spend money on getting the alley way gates beefed up, cement in hinges, metal gate, spikes, decent lock and chain, as this will stop them removing it. Then concentrate on immobilising bike security. Even if communal maybe neighbours would appreciate (may even contribute?) if there is benefit to them to reduce potential crime to them / their property.

Don't expect to get any discount on your insurance for all your efforts, just peace of mind.
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[onefourk]

When someone stole my mates CR250 they just lifted it over the gates the council had put up to limit access to the alley way. This was after they'd removed fence panels in two gardens to get the bike from his shed to the alley way

In you position I'd put it out the front and be religious about putting a cover over the bike, put a simple lock on the cover too if possible so taking it off the bike is non-trivial. If there is something to lock the bike too like a lamppost then use it. Alarmed disklocks are good and make a terrible racket, ideally you want these to start going off soon after the cover is removed and before the scumbags can start working on the chain.

If there is nothing to lock the bike to out front then I'd consider locking it up in the alley and fitting a ground anchor - don't bother telling the council obviously, if they ever made something of it just claim it was already there and you're just using it. If you did need to put it out back could you run some sort of super loud mains powered siren to it on a lanyard, i.e. bike is moved, lanyard switches the siren on, world alerted to criminal activities? Something like this would do the trick:

https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1432

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[Dave70]

[Amber Phoenix]

How much parking space is there on the road outside your house? Buy a crappy cheap trailer, take tow hitch off, bolt some concrete blocks to it, then chain your bike to it.

The trailer won't need MOT'ing to be put on road, doesn't need a number plate and need not cost much. So long as cutting the trailer is not less hassle than cutting your chain it should be a reasonable deterrent. No one is going to lift trailer and chain away in a hurry.
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[Dave70]

These are the type of ally gates.

https://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z261/yearzer0/Mobile%20Uploads/Allygates_zps87b3cb55.jpg
Apparently, the issue of them being able to be opened without a key has recently been resolved by the council, who have put a longer ground bolt on.

Just put the bike in the bike shop for them to have a look at and check it over, as I wouldn't feel safe riding it. I wonder how much they'll end up charging me just for looking at it It's not the type of shop I'd normally use/trust tbh (only on face value though, so far). They're far too clean and corporate looking for me but, they are only five minutes away. I'd rather deal with some bloke in old overalls, covered in oil and dirt, whose been working on bikes for thirty years or more.

So my current plan is, ground anchor with an Almax chain, another chain (Oxford) through the other wheel/disc lock, an Oxford Boss disc alarm on the front and another disc alarm on the rear and to park the bikes behind the locked alley gates.

Not much else I can do really. Hopefully, all that should stop most scumbags.

[Dave70]

[Rogerborg]

Good plan.

It might be worth going round the neighbours, cheery hello, tell them about it and suggest that everyone keeps an eye out.

If they can't see why they should bother, it's because:

1) Geezers will nick anything, they will.

2) Thefts push up the insurance weighting for the area, anecdotally down to the specific street in some cases.
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[Northern Monkey]

Why two chains?

If they can be bothered to cut the thicker one, the thinner one will be no deterrent.

2 chains will not significantly increase security, but make it much more of a PITA for you
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[willis1337]

Is there anyway of getting it into your back garden from the alley (assuming you have one)? If so do that and get a metal bike shed in back garden to alarm up / booby trap, to your hearts content.
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