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 Rogerborg nimbA

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 Posted: 12:15 - 10 Jun 2014 Post subject: Replacing a snapped clutch cable on a 2008 Enfield 500 |
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5 speed Electra pre-EFI.
At the roadside.
With a small multitool.
Cable bodge kit from the local Stealer, or call recovery and let the man with the van suck his teeth and say "Oh, I can't do owt with them new fangled bikes." ? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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 map Mr Calendar

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You mean the bits aren't already under the seat?
Has cable broken/snapped or just frayed and nipple (steady, not that sort) fallen off? ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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 Rogerborg nimbA

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| map wrote: | You mean the bits aren't already under the seat? |
My cable bodge kit is safely in its tin. Sadly, the tin is not under the seat, nor in the toolbox.
| map wrote: | Has cable broken/snapped or just frayed and nipple (steady, not that sort) fallen off? |
Snapped clean in the middle. It's not immediately obvious how to get at the lower nipple end (it's inside the gearbox), so a man with a van is en-route. I await his outraged "Naebody telt it wiz a motarbike!" ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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 Rogerborg nimbA

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 Posted: 14:09 - 10 Jun 2014 Post subject: |
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Or, call Auto Aid, get Man With A Van to take me home in comfort. Did, done, Enfield is now on the Naughty Step in the garage.
It snapped in Glasgow city centre, conveniently right next to a bike bay. Trying to get it out through traffic would have been comical.
Small crisis, not many dead.
-20 man points, although I claim the extenuating circumstances of being on a lunchtime run to try and scoop the latest picture challenge. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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 chris-red Have you considered a TDM?

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Should have been a man and ridden home like me,
It's an interesting thing, pulling away on a 900 twin without using a clutch, it is a strange feeling having the front wheel off the ground AND the rear spinning at the same time.  ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
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 Posted: 21:40 - 10 Jun 2014 Post subject: |
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without sounding stupid.....how do you change (either up or down) without a clutch?
just had a play, an failed miserably
the gear selector didn't move when the bike was moving  |
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| mudcow007 wrote: | without sounding stupid.....how do you change (either up or down) without a clutch?
just had a play, an failed miserably
the gear selector didn't move when the bike was moving  |
basically getting into first is the worse,
get the bike moving as you can, with the bike just idling, then stamp on the shifter, prepare for a jerk when it goes in,
now you are moving and in gear its fine, popping into 2nd will be considerably easier, close off the throttle when going into the next gear,
up through the gears is fairly easy, down is a bit harder, and a bit hairier when you have to come to a stop,
keep finger ready on kill switch, kill bike, flick into neutral, start bike, and repeat what you just did,
its a pain in the arse and quite stressful, but do-able,
6 miles across edinburgh during peak hour was my personal favorite ____________________ the humans are dead
I kick arse for the lord
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 Posted: 22:16 - 10 Jun 2014 Post subject: |
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| hmmmnz wrote: | | mudcow007 wrote: | without sounding stupid.....how do you change (either up or down) without a clutch?
just had a play, an failed miserably
the gear selector didn't move when the bike was moving  |
basically getting into first is the worse,
get the bike moving as you can, with the bike just idling, then stamp on the shifter, prepare for a jerk when it goes in,
now you are moving and in gear its fine, popping into 2nd will be considerably easier, close off the throttle when going into the next gear,
up through the gears is fairly easy, down is a bit harder, and a bit hairier when you have to come to a stop,
keep finger ready on kill switch, kill bike, flick into neutral, start bike, and repeat what you just did,
its a pain in the arse and quite stressful, but do-able,
6 miles across edinburgh during peak hour was my personal favorite |
I had to do it twice now and it was much easier to pull clutch in (if you have clutch switch) and start it in first to get moving |
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 Rogerborg nimbA

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Well, following up then.
Man With A Van was from 911 Rescue and Recovery. He didn't do cables, despite being a specialist motorcycle recoverer. From the cabin chat and dearth of tools, I suspect that they mostly just fling 'em in the van and get them home or to a dealer and collect their money - he was taking one down to Coventry later.
He also didn't take cards, despite Auto Aid assuring me that he would, nor give receipts, despite them apparently being required for the claim. Pictures were taken, shenanigans will be played out to the end.
He turned up quickly, recovery was efficient enough, and he was clearly careful, but still managed to catch the starter switch on something and pop it out of its slot. Not terminally, but a reminder to examine your vehicle thoroughly before and afterwards.
It turns out that my Bodge Tin only has a thin cable left, nowhere near as thick as the meaty stock one. That felt bone dry despite having been lubed with 10W40 a month or so previously. Might try gear oil on the next one.
| hmmmnz wrote: | keep finger ready on kill switch |
Did I mention that the kill switch on my bike was helpfully disabled by the original owner to "pre-empt problems with it", and that I hadn't got back around to connecting it?
On the other hand... the left one... the decompressor / valve lifter is a lulzy way to stop it, in a sort of wet farty manner. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Thanks I'll bear that in mind. £42 and up, and 7-10 working days though. Making my own, well, yes, that does make sense, I'll look into that. I'd like to re-use the existing sleeve and keep a spare in situ and ready to swap in.
There's a particular issue with Enfields in that they change the designs more often than Smiler claims he's planning to get his license, so I've ordered from Hitchcocks, who are very specific about models and dispatch same-day.
It's "British made" so it'll likely still be the wrong one, it cost 4x as much as an Indian one, and will come pre-rusted and will snap as I'm trying to fit it...  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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What with it being bank holiday in Scotchland today, you should have plenty of time to fix that cable and switch
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Can't be of much help because I'm not sure what happens on the gearbox end of an electra one.
My Bullet is still on it's original clutch cable but I do carry a spare just in case. On those you take the kickstart, gearshift and neutral finder off. Six bolts off for the gearbox cover and remove it. Hook the new cable onto the little lever then reassemble. You need a screwdriver, a 13mm spanner, a 12mm spanner and a 3/8 whitworth spanner as I recall.
If you're just replacing the inner from a repair kit with a solderness top nipple, you just need to swing back a keyhole cover thing and thread the new inner through.
Check the new cable runs free. I've had a couple of "sticky" cables off Hitchcocks before where the inner didn't run properly through a mid-cable adjuster. One of which was a throttle which was entertaining! ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 245 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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