Traffic light amber timing

[jjdugen]

Hi all
Just recieved my first NIP in what must be forty years or more....
It seems I went through a red light, the NIP says within 0.6 seconds of the red showing.
It one of the lights on the East Lancashire Road A580, here its restricted to 40mph. I went back through the junction to check and timed the phases. The amber stays on for 2.8 seconds. I was under the impression that amber was a second for each MPH of the speed limit. Anyone know if there is any law covering this timing? Can't find any UK legislation but plenty of US stuff that agrees with me.
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[covent.gardens]

I think the amber phase is the same regardless of the speed limit.

It would be rather easy to verify this with the stopwatch app on your mobile phone and a visit to a few different roads.

[iooi]

[Jonathan A]

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[Andy_Pagin]

[iooi]

PDF of standards
P57 I think you need.....

As far as timings are concerned, I believe the only fixed time is for the amber phase, which must be 3 seconds with a tolerance of 0.25 seconds. This does not vary with the speed limit.
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[pinkyfloyd]

Amber light means stop if it is safe to do so. You have the argument that you were 0.6th of a second into the red, you judged that it was not safe to stop in the 3 seconds of amber at the speed you were doing.

"AMBER means
‘Stop’ at the stop
line. You may go
on only if the
AMBER appears
after you have
crossed the stop
line or are so
close to it that
to pull up might
cause an accident
"

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/312214/the-highway-code-light-signals-controlling-traffic.pdf
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[martyn107]

Amber is always 3 seconds chief.

[EazyDuz]

I think they will just argue back that if its been green a while, slow down to a speed where if it turns amber you can safely stop before it goes to red.
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[dydey90]

According to the stopping distances it takes 36m to stop from 40mph.

I estimate you'd actually travel around 54m in the three seconds that you were approaching the lights.

1609.344*[40/(3600/3)] = 53.645m

1609.344 = meters to the mile
40 = speed in mph
3600 = seconds in an hour
3 = time elapsed

Unfortunately, if I can work this out then a lawyer may also be able to. Maybe just have to suck up the fine/course fees this time?
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[iooi]

40 mph = 58.5 feet a sec. So 3 secs = 175.5 feet.

Stopping distance from 40 mph = 118 feet....

The answer is quite clear.



Remember if the lights are at green. They can only go Amber>Red. So you should always be easing off coming upto a green light.
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[Dave70]

I gather this means that even the traffic lights have cameras on them over here then?

Can you even scratch your own ass in the UK anymore, without it being caught on camera?

Seriously, after being away for 14 years and coming back to so much public surveillance by the "authorities" is making me feel a little paranoid.

Sorry, I know it's off topic but WTF happened to the UK?

[EazyDuz]

[TallPaul_S]

Was about to say, if you can't stop in less than 3 seconds from 40mph you might need your brakes seeing to. Sounds like you didn't brake though and chanced going through.

Some traffic lights have red light and/or speed cameras - they're pretty rare and painted bright colours, and to be fair running a red light can get you in trouble very quickly if another car/bike is quick off the mark at the other lights, so I don't see the issue with them.
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[martyn107]

Even some random pedestrian crossings have ANPR cameras mounted on them.

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[Fisty]

[Dave70]

[Hetzer]

[Commuter_Tim]

[mattyfattyboo...]

It's fairly easy to pick points up these days so any chance to save my licence from some I'd take tbh

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[pinkyfloyd]

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