Honda Nsr125 2002 Hard Start Problem

[Sheepyyy]

Thinking of buying a Honda Nsr125 2002, but the fella says "Ok once started, but very difficult to start". Anybody got any idea on what the problem could be?

I don't want to buy the bike and it be completely gone or need a hell load of money sinking into it!

But if it's something easy to fix then i might take a shot!

Please get back ASAP!
Oh and it does have T&T till august, so it must of been running good enough sometime in the past year?
Cheers!
- Shaun

[Itchy]

Could be anything from a bad battery (cheap) something causing a bad battery (charging system), worn starter (varies depending on what you do).

But it is a 2 stroke and those things need rebuilds now and again, Who was it Map? he had an RGV grenade and rebuilt that thing more often than I have hot dinners.

Since I've seen 2 strokes being bumped backwards in a carpark and ridden backwards.

I'd ask when it was rebuilt, if he goes glazed eyed and doesn't know what you mean or doesn't have receipts for the parts it might need a rebuild.
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[Sheepyyy]

[Sheepyyy]

So he said it was rideable for the past 6 months he had it and he said he doesn't have the time to fix the bike that's why he's getting rid of it. I asked about the rebuild and he said it had a top end rebuild a few weeks ago, so i take it he just didn't run it in properly? I've asked him if he has the receipt and is that when the problems started just waiting on a reply

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One of mine is jetted rich and there's a knack to starting it. If you don't get it going within a couple of seconds, it fouls the plug.

It was jetted rich because my ex had zero mechanical sympathy and had a habit of blowing top ends.
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[Sheepyyy]

[Vincent]

As Itchy says, it could be many things. New plug cap, HT lead and air filter may be a good start. Presumably, the plug was renewed after the rebuild.
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[MarJay]

It sounds like it might need the rings doing. Often when a two stroke is low on compression it is hard to start but appears to run OK when actually going.

Depends if you want to do work on it I guess. If you know what you're doing you can do a top end rebuild in an hour or so, but if you have no clue I'd probably walk away.
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[Itchy]

[Sheepyyy]

[Sheepyyy]

He also just said he's got the receipt for it and that it started around then, 2 weeks ago to be exact

[Vincent]

If it's had a top end rebuild, hopefully the rings have been done.

Have you got any pics of the bike, they can say a lot about general condition and wether the bike's been loved....or not.
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[skatefreak]

It all depends to be honest.

I rode my NSR 125 for 4 years without much trouble, not a single top end rebuild and plenty of thrashing after getting one that had the power valve jammed open and all kinds of silly stuff so it clearly had a tough life before me.
They are very good bikes, have recently rebuilt mine from the ground up and the engines are pretty easy/straightforward to work on.

How much is it going for?
If its a good price and you could shift it for the same if you cant fix it, it may be worth a punt. You could get lucky

It sounds like he has narked something up though.

We can speculate as to what the problem is however it would be impossible to tell unless we could get our hands on it as the issues are rather vauge and it could fit one of many problems

-Jvr

[Sheepyyy]

[Vincent]

If you need reliability, and it doesn't start great, it's probably not for you.

However, as a classic 125, the NSR and NS are near the top.... I would have thought, from an era when makers were spending more on 125s and their development in general.
Against that you have its age to consider and the fact that a lot of them have been worked on by owners that have never been near a bike before. That doesn't mean all newbies wreck their own bikes, just that some aren't aware of certain facts that are important when keeping a bike on the road.

If there's no rattles, it doesn't smoke any more than it should, it's not overheating and pulls well, not starting first thing may not be the deal breaker.

I need pics, you can usually tell by looking at a bike how well it's been looked after.
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[Vincent]

^ Nah
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[MarJay]

Or you could buy a bike that works instead of looking at old shitters...? Just sayin' !
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[Robby]

If you will be relying on the bike to get to and from work, don't buy a 15-20 year old 2-stroke 125 unless you know how to fix it. By the sound of things, you don't know how to fix it.

To be honest, in that sort of budget I would be seriously considering a new or 6 month old Chinese 125, whatever was the most basic and most popular model I could find.

[Vincent]

It's very easy to rush into things and end up with a bike that not only can you not use.....but can't sell either. Be very careful

Whereabouts are you?
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