Chinese myth going round.

[Itchy]

Chinese myths can be legendary but there has been something going around that old style non photocard driving licences are to be made invalid come October.

Is there any truth to this? I know photocards expire after 10 years but what about the old ones?

I have seen or heard nothing about this...
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[Skudd]

Does China have the same system as England?
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The most sensible change of law as it relates to driving is mandatory annual retests for all drivers/riders over the age of 65. They shouldn't have to pay for the retest but it would cut down a lot of dangerous old folks pottering along at 20mph in NSL zones, pulling out on cyclists (no matter how much they might happen to deserve it) and so forth.
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[Skudd]

It should be EVERYONE has to retake the test or a test apt for those who have driven, or show that further training has been taken.
A licence should only last 5-7 years, then retake.
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[Itchy]

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[Teflon-Mike]

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Hi

30m drivers, retest every 5 years so 6m a year. Say £100 for the test / training that is £600m a year (even ignoring days off work, loss of work from people who fail and can't get to work, etc).

Would it really save 600 drives a year?

All the best

Keith
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Main mechanism that policy makers wish to use to improve road safety is simple expedience of reducing driver numbers. Less cars on the road, less will bump into each other, but its factorial, take drivers off the road, not only do you lower the number of people who can bump into each other, you lower the odds they will do so.

Reduces congestion, reduces cars parked on the street, turning two lane wide road into single lane for cars to tear down head to head, and bump into each other or car parked either side, and so on and so on down the line.

Reasons that new drivers are 'hit' with more convoluted and harder to pass tests; closing the door to them, doesn't impact existing drivers who form a large portion of the electorate.

Retesting would be a political shot in the foot to any-one who tried to push it through, other than via the 'remote' and effectively autonomous EU.

But after closing the door on new drivers, ramping motoring taxes making vehicle use more expensive... which they are doing fairly successfully...

... the average car costs something the order of £3-5,000 a year in cost of owner ship, from the depreciation on purchase price, through overheads of insurance, to direct running costs of fuel... around 1/4 the average wage....

..... mandatory retest is the next way to prune down driver numbers. Many simply wouldn't cough up to get a licence if they only got it for five years, many after getting one would let them lapse.

So, wouldn't be 30million drivers all clamouring for extra days off to get their retest in; and cost vs saving would't be simply the added burden vs savings from fewer accidents, but saving from lower load on 'infrastructure' too.

But all academic, as I doubt any political party would continence such a policy....

One thing I DO think would do a lot to improve road safety, would be to introduce 'proof of parking' for vehicle registration; every property assessed for how many cars may be registered at that address.....

Back to those urban roads wide enough for three cars, clogged up with rows of cars parked either side, and cars circulating trying to find a space to dump it.... cos they are all terraced or narrow fronted semi's with no off-street parking, with maybe 20 ft of frontage, enough to park one average sized family saloon car, while the occupants own two large family saloon cars each 15' long!

Cant park it, cant register it. Buy a bigger house or a smaller car!

Again take cars off the road... if only when they aren't being driven.

Sounds silly, but parked cars are still a hazard, and cars spend a lot more time parked than they do driven. Just shifting them some where out the way of other road users, would dramatically reduce the umber of hazards on ur roads ad the umber of accidents and could drastically ease congestion in some areas letting traffic move in both directions sententiously!

Other one would be to have parking prohibition on any road within 250 yards of a school entrance. Not just the 15m of zig-zags either side.

Children are the road-users most likely to be seriously hurt a road accident and it is MOST likely within 1/4 mile of their school.

YET all the School-Run Mums who are actually the ones who knock down most kiddies, are insistent that they HAVE to drive their little precious to school, 'cos walking is SO dangerouse

Sod the GATSO's near them, just lay down the double yellows and send out the Rita's! Again, quick cut n accidents, and easement to congestion; while beggig the school-run-mums to really consider whether they need a car, and if so to use it at peak-times for the school run, if they still have to walk, 1/5 of a mile or more from parking space to gate.

Though I have actually watched one on my street, back Espace of drive with kiddies in, drive round the block, and park FURTHER from the school entrance than their front door is, every day! Strange bit of feminine logic for you (like "Sorry Dear I couldn't get your cornflakes I had to get wheetaix 'cos the shop did't have any shampoo") "Well, I was going to town after.. it would mean coming back on myself to walk the kids to school the come back for the car"
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[pja8]

Only a paper license for me, never had a photo one. I get to unfold it on the odd occasion its needed, otherwise it stays tucked away.

One less thing I have to renew and pay out for thankfully. ☺
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My point exactly, sir. My point exactly.
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[The Wobbly Orange]

Retests would clog up the already overborne test centres, theory tests are good for the basics but would not really add anything to an experienced driver.

In my opinion the best bet would be as we have now with GP saying no medical issues plus a mandatory eye test and a mandatory reaction test.
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