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PostPosted: 20:10 - 01 Jul 2014    Post subject: ZX12R with 507 BHP @ Rear Wheel on dyno Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDlGHVeH8Io


Maaaad.

Bet that thing is almost unride-able. Bit crazy tbh, could bet a standard S1000rr would be such a nicer ride.

Still, impressive engineering I suppose. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 01 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a lot of power, but I reckon my bike could beat that figure. One day I'll find out Smile
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 01 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is some serious poke, however you'd probably need a 10 meter long swing arm just launch it off the line properly Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 02 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
That's a lot of power, but I reckon my bike could beat that figure. One day I'll find out Smile


I dread to think how yours lays down the power currently...add a hundred or so and its gonna be mental Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 02 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
That's a lot of power, but I reckon my bike could beat that figure. One day I'll find out Smile
Noticed that the bike lifts itself up during the run, effectively making it shorter. Sure makes the chain appear slack
Is that factored in during a proper run on the strip?
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 02 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was just wondering there watching it how a chain like that handles 500+ ponies
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PostPosted: 07:32 - 03 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pete. wrote:
That's a lot of power, but I reckon my bike could beat that figure. One day I'll find out Smile
Noticed that the bike lifts itself up during the run, effectively making it shorter. Sure makes the chain appear slack
Is that factored in during a proper run on the strip?


Why does it matter what happens to the length of the bike during the run?
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 03 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cos chain all flappy then tight n stuff innit.

Think I was trying to ask if you drag strip people take that into account when you add xx" to the swingarm. To my inexperienced eye it looks like the chain could foul on something...or come off.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 03 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

HT wrote:
Cos chain all flappy then tight n stuff innit.

Think I was trying to ask if you drag strip people take that into account when you add xx" to the swingarm. To my inexperienced eye it looks like the chain could foul on something...or come off.


Still has tension in the top half, so does that not keep it on and ensure it runs straight?

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PostPosted: 11:55 - 16 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My thoughts too: Where do you get a chain that's designed to take that kind of power?

Sod it, I'll just use a clip link to fit this..... Laughing

In fact, where do you get a chassis/gearbox/everything to take that kind of power? Thinking
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 16 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
My thoughts too: Where do you get a chain that's designed to take that kind of power?

Sod it, I'll just use a clip link to fit this..... Laughing

In fact, where do you get a chassis/gearbox/everything to take that kind of power? Thinking


Standard 'busa gearbox can take it. DRZ530 chain holds up too and yeah mine has a clip link.

HT wrote:
Cos chain all flappy then tight n stuff innit.

Think I was trying to ask if you drag strip people take that into account when you add xx" to the swingarm. To my inexperienced eye it looks like the chain could foul on something...or come off.


If you were to check out a big-power bike on the line you'd find the chain is done up bowstring-tight. They always look loose under power though.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 16 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:

Standard 'busa gearbox can take it. DRZ530 chain holds up too and yeah mine has a clip link.



I'm guessing that as this guy's obviously running a fair amount of boost, he'll have done some pretty extensive engine strengthening though? Shot peened or Carillo rods or some such, welded crank, race spec valve springs etc? So how can you be sure the transmission will be ok? 500+ is an awful lot of ponies. (Not arguing, just curious Smile )
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 16 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

No welding on a one-piece crank. The gearbox is ok for it AFAIK but the clutch is the 12r's weak point. It'll have a lockup at the very least probably a stronger basket too. Rods will certainly be aftermarket as will pistons, valve springs probably head bolts too.

This biggest down-side I can see to boosting the 12r is the barrels being integral to the top casing. If you mess up and smear a piston you can't just swap the barrels like you can on the 'busa, you have to strip the engine and replace the cases or have the bores re-worked.
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 16 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete, does more block rigidity not make up for this though? I know that for racing use, being able to quickly strip and re-build an engine with the least amount of work/disassembly is probably a big plus factor, but I always see separate barrels as a very 90's design feature, and that by going one-piece like a car block, you can make an engine lighter or stronger maybe?

I always liked the rover K-series engine for it's method of construction, with long through bolts holding everything in tension and a big crank ladder/bearing frame and baseplate to sandwich everything together with.

Would be a crap design for racing due to the reasons mentioned above, but I've never understood why other firms who make engines out of better quality alloys and proper block/liner design have not used the long bolt system?
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 16 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know, I guess that integral barrels does give greater rigidity but they probably use it more to add lightness. All good on a stock bike but if you're pushing the boundaries it can get very expensive.
The serious drag racers, and the ones who can afford it keep a spare built engine or two so they don't have to rebuild between races.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 03 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any vids of it on the street or at the track?
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