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footlong8
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 07 Jul 2014    Post subject: im a massive twat Reply with quote

... its true. il admit it, on this occasion i have been a massive twat.

whilst wheeling my street triple r out of the garage i managed to loose my mind, my strength and my sanity for just a second and dropped the bike.

it only fell against a fence, so wasnt a big drop. but its smashed off a wing mirror and the 'collar' (i dont know what its called) has sheared through.

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so my question is. anybody know where i can get reasonably priced replacement parts. and secondly- what is the 'collar' thing i have broken called? if the wing mirror and collar were replaced it would be good as new - the brake lever etc are all fine and dandy.

if anybody can answer those questions they are free to call me a twat up to and including 4 times in their response.

many thanks
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 07 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its the clamp on the master cylinder, forms the stay for the mirror.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 07 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fisty wrote:
Its the clamp on the master cylinder, forms the stay for the mirror, you TWAT!


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PostPosted: 22:11 - 07 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you people insist on wheeling shit about. Whenever I see people wheel their bikes out from the kerb at popular bike meeting areas, y'know when the bikes are parked at 90 degrees to the kerb, front wheel touching the kerb, they go backwards then to a rest and then sit on and start up and faff about etc.

Makes me just want to say go put it back n the shed until the second of the two days you fucking ride it.

The bike is more stable with you sat on the seat and a foot either side. It can't fall forward or backward, it can only go sideways and you have a leg at either side to stop it. If it's in a tight spot and you can't shuffle it backwards a short distance then turn it around on the side stand and drive out!

Reminds me of the mod 1 pushing it backwards malarkey. The only time I will need that maneuvre is if I park in next door's garage by mistake! Neither of us have a garage so it's unlikely to ever get used again! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 07 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the collar bit is only about £15 for a new genuine part

mirrors are common on ebay, a new one IIRC is 50-60 quid
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 07 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read the start as "wheelied out of my garage "

I instantly thought, boss... then expected more damage... much disappoint
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PostPosted: 06:22 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheeling a bike about is a skill we all should know it is not hard to do

Better post test training covers it


The clamp as said is about £15 T2025411 is the part no
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PostPosted: 06:33 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

gavbriggs wrote:
Why do you people insist on wheeling shit about. Whenever I see people wheel their bikes out from the kerb at popular bike meeting areas, y'know when the bikes are parked at 90 degrees to the kerb, front wheel touching the kerb, they go backwards then to a rest and then sit on and start up and faff about etc.

Makes me just want to say go put it back n the shed until the second of the two days you fucking ride it.

The bike is more stable with you sat on the seat and a foot either side. It can't fall forward or backward, it can only go sideways and you have a leg at either side to stop it. If it's in a tight spot and you can't shuffle it backwards a short distance then turn it around on the side stand and drive out!

Reminds me of the mod 1 pushing it backwards malarkey. The only time I will need that maneuvre is if I park in next door's garage by mistake! Neither of us have a garage so it's unlikely to ever get used again! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Rolling Eyes


Well, I wouldn't fancy dog-paddling my bike to the petrol station if I manage to run out of fuel Laughing Wheeling feels quicker and I daresay doesn't look as silly as dog-paddling, especially if you're a shortarse like me who has to slide from side to side to walk a bike around.
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PostPosted: 06:52 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

gavbriggs wrote:
Why do you people insist on wheeling shit about.

Because this...
gavbriggs wrote:
The bike is more stable with you sat on the seat and a foot either side. It can't fall forward or backward, it can only go sideways and you have a leg at either side to stop it. If it's in a tight spot and you can't shuffle it backwards a short distance then turn it around on the side stand and drive out!

Is wrong.
If you are sat straddling the bike, and try paddling, you have the smallest possible 'base' for stability, and least leverage to shift it.
Fine if you have good footing, and good surface, and dont tip too far, but beyond that?
Imagine laying a bike on its side; now straddle it, and try lifting it back onto its wheels between your legs... you might manage it if its a flyweight trials bike with bog all seat height, or a little lightweight, but if its tall or heavy, ENT gonna happen, and you would walk round to the handlebar side, and lift from the side... BECAUSE stood besides the bike, you have a far bigger stability base. You DEFINITLEY can have both feet on teh floor, rather than one on the floor trying to take all the weight and one tipy-toing to teh floor from the high-side.. and BOTH legs can apply lifting force for you.
This is why it is the approved method for manouvering a motorcycle, why it is taught on CBT and why it is included in the motorcycle test.
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PostPosted: 07:33 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

gavbriggs wrote:
Why do you people insist on wheeling shit about.

Perhaps because we've experienced what happens when you're paddling a bike backwards and put your foot down on a surface that unexpectedly isn't there? Thinking
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

gavbriggs wrote:
Why do you people insist on wheeling shit about:
Also very hard to paddle backwards if you're on a slight hill. And a lot harder if you have thick jeans/textiles on, as that effectively shortens your reach to the ground and reduces mobility. Let he who hath never overbalanced or nearly dropped a bike casteth the first stone....
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always paddle, not wheeled my bike once yet, backwards uphill is a pain though, generally nudge it back then put front break on and repeat...or forward plan and go into a space backwards..
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must admit I do most of my bike moving whilst sat on it. Mainly because when moving it backwards there's nowhere for my other hand to grip. Plus I get chronic lower back pain and it weighs about 250kg
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they not teach how to push your bike about without dropping it during the CBT any more?
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If space ain't an issue I usually stand portside to back the bike using my left hand on the bars & my right on the seat or grab rail. I also use the sidestand to spin the bike with both wheels off the ground but this will eventually fuck the stand. I never get on the bike to push unless I'm on an incline - far too camp, although some situations like trailer ramps demand this. At my recent MOT test I watched the grease monkeys at the local workshop move their bikes back into the showroom at the end of the day. It was poetry in motion. All thirty-odd bikes were backed through a tiny doorway into a small lock up in under fifteen minutes. No incidents. They push 'em in & out twice a day, every day... Practice makes perfect.
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

parts ordered - thank you, i knew id get the answer from here - a small bit of abuse is worth it.

i normally do move the bike out while sat on it. on this occasion it was pretty hard up against the garage wall..... and of course i was being a twat.
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snowie's a bugger for paddling.
I caught her a right one today though; was quite comical. We'd pulled up outside an arcade of shops, and she had an appointment, and having stopped by the kerb, was left floundering to get up it and park as I had. So I told her to hop of and go in, and I'd park up the Pup for her.
Went to leave, I got on my bike, and looked in the mirrors to see when she was ready; to see her flailing around like a grounded turtle, flapping her legs either side of the bike, unable to paddle it to the kerb!
I'd put it on the centre stand, and she forgot to take it off before she mounted!
I was just wondering how long she'd keep trying to ride off the stand, before getting off and doing it properly, when Chap from the Tatoo shop next door came out for a fag.... took in the scene... chuckled... let her flounder a bit longer, then gave her a helpful shove!
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 16:45 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheeling a bike at walking pace is easy enough - you can use countersteering to keep it upright as you go, rather than trying to balance it.

It's when you need to move it only a little bit, slowly, that it gets awkward - if the bike gets away from you (falling to its right when you're on the left), it's gone.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Do they not teach how to push your bike about without dropping it during the CBT any more?


They certainly did a few months ago at least.
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the year I've owned my bike think I've walked along with it maybe twice
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

gavbriggs wrote:
Why do you people insist on wheeling shit about. Whenever I see people wheel their bikes out from the kerb at popular bike meeting areas, y'know when the bikes are parked at 90 degrees to the kerb, front wheel touching the kerb, they go backwards then to a rest and then sit on and start up and faff about etc.

Makes me just want to say go put it back n the shed until the second of the two days you fucking ride it.

The bike is more stable with you sat on the seat and a foot either side. It can't fall forward or backward, it can only go sideways and you have a leg at either side to stop it. If it's in a tight spot and you can't shuffle it backwards a short distance then turn it around on the side stand and drive out!

Reminds me of the mod 1 pushing it backwards malarkey. The only time I will need that maneuvre is if I park in next door's garage by mistake! Neither of us have a garage so it's unlikely to ever get used again! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Rolling Eyes


Bollox....

Far safer to wheel a bike about with either both hands on the bars , or one on the bar, and the other on the seat or gripping a grab rail, bike leant towards you so you can take the weight.

Far safer
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boris the spider wrote:
Far safer to wheel a bike about with either both hands on the bars , or one on the bar, and the other on the seat or gripping a grab rail, bike leant towards you so you can take the weight.

I weigh 60kg. My VFR probably weighs north of 250kg with a full tank, and it's top-heavy. I can't take its weight leaning against me more than a few degrees. Taking it off the centrestand on a slight adverse camber and little room to manoeuver is quite a tricky proposition.

But if it's in motion, it's not a problem - I've pushed it a few hundred meters in the past, to get past London half-marathon road closures and the like. You can steer it upright if it's got some momentum.

Always park facing uphill.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boris the spider wrote:

Bollox....

Far safer to wheel a bike about with either both hands on the bars , or one on the bar, and the other on the seat or gripping a grab rail, bike leant towards you so you can take the weight.

Far safer


Erm evidently not as the op dropped his as he was wheeling it about which is the main reason for this thread.

By far safer to be sat on the machine. I also leave the centre stand down as much as I can whilst shuffling about or letting the mrs on or off. Limits the distance it will fall at least on one side should I loose my balance. I have nearly snapped my foot off though with the stand down a few times but who needs a foot if it saves your bike getting wrecked because you want to wheel a quarter ton machine into next doors garage!
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