Visor Inserts. If you wear one you may be interested!

[T.C]

I don't know if you are aware, but a few weeks ago, one of the major manufacturers and one of the major distributors were fined a total of over £14,000 + over £1,500 each in costs for selling and distributing visor inserts that failed to let in sufficient ambient light.

They were prosecuted on the findings of a silver, gold and blue insert which were found to let in between 3.2 and 7.8% of the ambient light, but the manufacturer was also prosecuted for false representation as they claimed it cut out 50% of the ambient light when in fact it was nearer 96%.

This ruling in simple terms has virtually outlawed the production and sale of visor inserts as it also affects the normal dark tint visor type.

The main issue is on light transmission and colour recognition, and I have just had a call from Bob Heath (some of you may know him as the visor manufacturer) himself and who I have known for some time about this ruling.

The dark visor inserts allow 20% light transmission and complies with all colour recognition tests in respect of category 2 of the light filter requirements, and fits in with the EN1938/98 regs which allows 20% light transmission for motorcycle goggles (that is black), but Trading Standards used the 4110 standard as its comparison not realising that other regulations also applied, (I had a very interesting conversation with trading standards).

So all being well, and with my/our help we are going to challenge this ruling and hopefully get part of the ruling overturned so that motorcyclists can still use reasonable means to protect their eyes when riding in bright conditions legally.

As a by the by, the prosecution of the silver, gold and blue inserts was absolutely right under regulation 15(1) of the general product safety regulations 1994, but it has a knock on affect for everything else as well regardless of colour.

It will be interesting, and I will keep you posted as to how things progress!
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[synaptyx]

That is interesting TC, thanks. I have a Lazer Revolution helmet with an internal flip up dark visor (like the Caberg Justissimo and the Schuberth Concept and C2, dunno if there's any more out there). I find it a great help on winter days and when there's sunshine after a good downpour. Will this regulation require the manufacturers of these helmets to make any changes to their internal visors and if so, what about the thousands of them already being used, are we going to be prosecuted?

[T.C]

[Bendy]

So if you like them, go out and buy a handful now.

[T.C]

[synaptyx]

[Claud 14.7 to 1]

Damn it!, Knew it would happen...

Why do they insist this? I mean it does make sence, seeing as an insert could be just as light "blocking" as a dark visor. But still .

I mean it's not rocket science, when its bright, and sunny use one. When it gets dark or really cloudy take them out...

Mines getting tatty, so i have to scout around for one...Wish me luck...

[XS1954]

Interesting. I ordered a couple yesterday from www.bikers-cafe.co.uk. Only £4.50 a go.
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[Key Walshe]

Does this apply to the tinted 'tear-offs' that you can also use, as an alternative to a dark visor or the visor inserts?

As I use them quite regularly on my helmets and I much prefer them to the insert's so would be disappointed if they were to be stopped too, but guessing that they make no claims about light blocked out and they're used regularly for racing that they may not be affected....... hopefully?
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[Mr C]

fuck them

fuck them all

get proper black, tinted, irridium - whatever visors

you might as well now
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