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notbike
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 09 Dec 2014    Post subject: Finally come to my senses. Reply with quote

Just got back from A&E and all I have is a bruised elbow, luckily haha. Quit that deathtrap job of delivering pizzas on the spot with no notice, though I expect I'll be getting a call tomorrow morning from my boss and he can go fuck himself tbh.

Had another crash this time at 30 because the pizza bike's rear brake would not disengage as I was slowing down for the upcoming bend. So I had to either take the corner with the brake still binding, or try to E-stop before hitting the kerb & going into the trees (Didn't fancy my chances given the distance and rain).

Decided to do the former and just commit to the bend, even though I felt a tugging at the rear and saw the brake pedal was still kind of pushed down on it's own. Tried to kick it loose but couldn't un-jam it, had to forcibly un-jam it when I was picking the bike up off the side road, after I'd been flung up the road and ragdoll'd that is. Fucking surprising how you just cannot bloody stop when you're rolling at 30 odd.

Decided this time I'm going to actually walk away before I end up dead next time.

Also inb4 "shouldnt ride bike with dodgy brakes hurr" the brakes were fine until I was on the way back.

So now I need to sort myself out and find another part time job or I can kiss goodbye to riding for a while.
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 09 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would report them, they could have got you killed.
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 09 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xx-BarbieGirl-Xx wrote:
Isn't it an offence to knowingly use an unsafe vehicle on the highway?


I thought this particular bike was okay because it had no problems, until I found out today the rear brake likes to stick at random.

monkeybiker wrote:
I would report them, they could have got you killed.


They could turn around and say it's our responsibility to make sure the bikes are working fine. Even though I try to do that, we're told to just use another bike if that bike we want to use isn't working fine. If we refuse to use any bike (because all of them have problems) then we're sent home, no wages, waste of time, repeated refusal to work = kicked out of a job. It's a lose/lose, so sometimes you gotta ignore a problem or two to get paid.

In that sense, they got us by the balls with that one, you either make do or get the fuck out basically, and when you have shit to pay for you can't do the latter at a whim unfortunately.

Also I dunno how likely it is that they'll brand me as a troublemaker to other employers if i go that route, so yeah I wouldn't want to risk that either.
The repeated crashes before I actually decided enough was enough (I've had 4 of them in total now) on these pizza bikes would probably be used against me too.

I'm thinking let bygones be bygones, there's more I could've done to prevent this happening anyway.
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xx-BarbieGirl-Xx wrote:

You know they've previous for it, so why continue. YOU are responsible for checking the bike is roadworthy before you ride it.


Continued because I need the money and it was easily available there.

I know I'm responsible, that's why I quit now and wont take it further.

I didn't know there was anything wrong with this particular bike despite previous bikes being unroadworthy because there wasn't anything wrong with it for the first 15 minutes (first delivery) - how else do you find out something's wrong with it without test riding it to see what's wrong with it? Was fine after first delivery so went for a second which is when it happened, meaning I wasn't aware that it was unfit for the road at the time of the incident.
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP recently referred to BodyGuard as a retard Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

In hindsight I think you should have called the cops and tried to get that bike impounded/inspected by VOSA or whoever do it; prove the work vehicle they supplied wasn't maintained properly and you start to build a case for your injury/loss of earnings etc with their insurer.

Raffles wrote:
The OP recently referred to BodyGuard as a retard Laughing

And isn't he?!

OP is just silly. BodyGuard is in a different league.
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

covent.gardens wrote:
In hindsight I think you should have called the cops and tried to get that bike impounded/inspected by VOSA or whoever do it; prove the work vehicle they supplied wasn't maintained properly and you start to build a case for your injury/loss of earnings etc with their insurer.


Why do I not have this kind of knowledge Neutral I didn't know I could do all of that and actually get somewhere
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PostPosted: 01:44 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You live and learn, eventually. Wink

Good luck on the job hunting. Thumbs Up

Try looking around for some temporary work through an agency, for the short term at least. It can be pretty dull and uninspiring work (I've had agency jobs when I was much younger that included peeling oranges for airline fruit salads, picking bad nuts and insects off of a conveyor belt and filling bottles of anti-freeze Laughing ) but, it'll not pay less than your pizza delivery job and could even pay more and you won't die...probably. (The peeling oranges job I had paid over £9p/h and that was over 20 years ago. Most jobs pay minimum wage though but, it's better than fk all.
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PostPosted: 02:03 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave70 wrote:
You live and learn, eventually. Wink

Good luck on the job hunting. Thumbs Up

Try looking around for some temporary work through an agency, for the short term at least. It can be pretty dull and uninspiring work (I've had agency jobs when I was much younger that included peeling oranges for airline fruit salads, picking bad nuts and insects off of a conveyor belt and filling bottles of anti-freeze Laughing ) but, it'll not pay less than your pizza delivery job and could even pay more and you won't die...probably. (The peeling oranges job I had paid over £9p/h and that was over 20 years ago. Most jobs pay minimum wage though but, it's better than fk all.


Haha mate I'd love to peel oranges for £9p/h!

But on a serious note, anything other than delivering pizzas. Not fussy atm Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 02:13 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

monkeybiker wrote:
I would report them, they could have got you killed.


Meef wrote:
They could, they might blah blah faggotry

Look lad, it's only a matter of time before you hear that some pizza kid is dead because he was sent out on a dodgy bike.

The gaff has a "fleet of scoots", and the gaff is responsible for them.

MTFU and make the call to the H&S dudes along with calling the police.
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PostPosted: 02:36 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
monkeybiker wrote:
I would report them, they could have got you killed.


Meef wrote:
They could, they might blah blah faggotry

Look lad, it's only a matter of time before you hear that some pizza kid is dead because he was sent out on a dodgy bike.

The gaff has a "fleet of scoots", and the gaff is responsible for them.

MTFU and make the call to the H&S dudes along with calling the police.


Tbf to the lad, I think he's quite young and as so, probably not aware of his rights.

Other than that though, I agree. Those machines need to be fixed/serviced or scrapped before someone gets seriously hurt or killed.

Get them reported ASAP. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 02:55 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call VOSA, Police and local HSE. ALL OF THEM.

If the bikes are not fit for use and the manager or owner is not repairing them, then something needs to be done before someone is killed or seriously injured.


Otherwise YOU will be partly responsible for the next injury. Because you knew and did nothing.


Safety at work is EVERYONEs responsibility, not just those it directly affects.




Glad you are not too injured, but please for the love of god report it to the relevant authorities because it is just not acceptable, and it is only a matter of time before something much worse happens.
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PostPosted: 03:11 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay guys maybe you're right, I'll start making phone calls tomorrow then. I don't wanna put myself in shit for this and I don't know what I'm doing but it's true so I'll give it a shot, I actually reckon if there was a car behind me today they may not have been able to stop and would have hit me, its kind of a scary thought.

Also as a side note I was surprised how many cars just drove past while I'm standing in the middle of the road trying to pick my bike up.
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PostPosted: 08:30 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Move on, find another job. Stop posting about it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:35 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP needs to name and shame his now ex-employer Very Happy
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Re: Finally come to my senses. Reply with quote

Meef wrote:
slowing down for the upcoming bend [...] saw the brake pedal was still kind of pushed down on it's own.

Why were you looking at the pedal instead of where you wanted to go? Were all the other delivery monkeys binning these bikes, or just you? Thinking

Eh, never mind. You've belatedly made the right decision, move on with your life. Make the calls if you like but I'll be astonished if anyone gives a stuff before someone gets properly potatoed.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Llama-Farmer wrote:
Call VOSA, Police and local HSE. ALL OF THEM.

If the bikes are not fit for use and the manager or owner is not repairing them, then something needs to be done before someone is killed or seriously injured.


Do this. Also, DO NOT QUIT if you haven't already done so. If they're pissed off about you calling VOSA etc, let them sack you for it. You're onto a nice payout come tribunal time then.

https://www.gov.uk/whistleblowing/dismissals-and-whistleblowing wrote:

A worker can’t be dismissed because of whistleblowing. If they are, they can claim unfair dismissal - they’ll be protected by law as long as certain criteria are met....They include when someone reports:

that someone’s health and safety is in danger
a criminal offence
that the company isn’t obeying the law (like not having the right insurance)
that someone’s covering up wrongdoing

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PostPosted: 11:41 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Disapproving Brit wrote:
Llama-Farmer wrote:
Call VOSA, Police and local HSE. ALL OF THEM.

If the bikes are not fit for use and the manager or owner is not repairing them, then something needs to be done before someone is killed or seriously injured.


Do this. Also, DO NOT QUIT if you haven't already done so. If they're pissed off about you calling VOSA etc, let them sack you for it. You're onto a nice payout come tribunal time then.

https://www.gov.uk/whistleblowing/dismissals-and-whistleblowing wrote:

A worker can’t be dismissed because of whistleblowing. If they are, they can claim unfair dismissal - they’ll be protected by law as long as certain criteria are met....They include when someone reports:

that someone’s health and safety is in danger
a criminal offence
that the company isn’t obeying the law (like not having the right insurance)
that someone’s covering up wrongdoing


All very well and good, on paper. In the real world however, it tends.to be the whistle blower that gets shafted.
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

He also hasn't been there 2 years, so doesn't have full employment rights, or the right to claim unfair dismissal (though he may still be able to for whistle blowing as that is not usual circumstances). He would still have to have a couple of hundred in his bank to initiate a tribunal case.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

lihp wrote:
He also hasn't been there 2 years, so doesn't have full employment rights, or the right to claim unfair dismissal (though he may still be able to for whistle blowing as that is not usual circumstances). He would still have to have a couple of hundred in his bank to initiate a tribunal case.


Exceptions to the 2 year continuous employment, are where the dismissal is for one of the following reasons:

9. Dismissal of an employee observing health & safety rules.

19. Dismissal based on "whistleblowing", where disclosure is made in the public interest.

There could be an argument that disclosure is not in the public interest, but it's not like he gives a shit if he loses the job anyway - might as well bleed them for SSP while he's injured at least.
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meef, why haven't you applied to that other pizza outfit with the shiny new bikes, better gear, better pay etc?
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Move on, forget about it!

Plod getting a conviction against your employer, no chance.
Plod getting a, trumped up, conviction based you riding a defective bike, an absolute cert!
Do you having an, overwhelming, urge to obtain 3 points + £100 fine?
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meef

You can hit them with a case based on employer liability relating to the bike being unsafe. You need evidence though my case that is in the works I have photos of all the daily check sheets I filled in highlighting issues, videos of the bike and issues and hundreds of photos of unsafe shit that the management were ignoring (headlight sellotaped on is a personal favourite). Also have other employees willing to make statements.

Avoid Police as has been said for them you are the easier conviction.

If you have evidence of negligence contact a parasitic lawyer. If no evidence then just move on, late night shelf stacking ain't bad, minimum interaction with wankers and leaves the day free.
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