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 Posted: 13:50 - 07 Aug 2014  Post subject: Travel documents... |
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My passport has become a little too damaged for use for air travel. Just about ok for the ferries after a bit of questioning.
So... I'm heading back to the UK to get a new one. Unfortunately the fast track still takes a week. Are there any other possible documents I can use for travel to save me wasting 1week+ of holiday? I can only find info about travel documents for non-UK citizens.
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Posted: 15:31 - 07 Aug 2014  Post subject: |
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Urgent passport - need an appointment but can get the passport the same day or within a week.
https://www.gov.uk/get-a-passport-urgently
Emergency passport (temporary) - if your passport is lost/stolen, damaged or expired and you need to leave a country
https://www.gov.uk/emergency-travel-document
If you have good reason, you can get a second passport.
Good reason would be regular business travel involving sending passports off to embassies for visa applications etc, or visiting countries where an entrance stamp would prevent, or make difficult, travel in other countries.
Wanting a second passport to make your life easier is not a good reason though, and you gotta be very careful about using two, it's not an internationally accepted thing, just a (British) privilege so you can't swap between passports except in the UK or international areas (i.e. between the departure lounge and passport control in your destination)
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| Posted: 15:58 - 07 Aug 2014 Post subject: |
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| Llama-Farmer wrote: | Urgent passport - need an appointment but can get the passport the same day or within a week.
https://www.gov.uk/get-a-passport-urgently
Emergency passport (temporary) - if your passport is lost/stolen, damaged or expired and you need to leave a country
https://www.gov.uk/emergency-travel-document
If you have good reason, you can get a second passport.
Good reason would be regular business travel involving sending passports off to embassies for visa applications etc, or visiting countries where an entrance stamp would prevent, or make difficult, travel in other countries.
Wanting a second passport to make your life easier is not a good reason though, and you gotta be very careful about using two, it's not an internationally accepted thing, just a (British) privilege so you can't swap between passports except in the UK or international areas (i.e. between the departure lounge and passport control in your destination) |
The first one is what I'm doing - 1 week service as it's not a renewal (although, may be 1 day if I get lucky). snoosnoo: lost & damaged count as the same thing... Essentially if I turn up with a good condition passport I may get a one day service... Anything else and the fast track is 1 week.
Worst thing is, they refuse to check the forms in front of you, so if you make a mistake or there's something they're not 100% happy with it suddenly takes another week.
The second passport is interesting! I may just be able to wangle one via work.
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| Marmalade wrote: | If I understand what you are saying. A uk resident just needs proof of nationality to travel back into the UK from France, like an old passport? |
Well... Like all government stuff that depends where you read about it. Supposedly to travel in the EEA, you need only to prove your nationality and you should be given 'adequate chance' to do so. However, on some UK gov sites you need passport or national ID card and nothing else is accepted.
The rules on planes are stricter - a national ID/passport is necessary.
I suspect a Brit trying to get home on the ferry (esp. with a British accent) would be ok. Trying to go to France may meet more resistance, although I've not shown my passport at all sometimes and others I've been scrutineered.
There's the added bonus of being required to carry ID to drive in most of Europe... and a driving license isn't officially ID.
So, whatever the actual rules, I guess, as always, it just matters who you get on the day...
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Same problem here too. I'm going back to UK in 2 weeks time to use Option 1 and get a replacement. I put mine through the wash which has damaged it... it's still usable but unfortuantely, it actually washed off a lot of stamps too...and visas... so it just looks tampered with. I had 2 pages left before it went in the wash, now it looks like I have about 10.  On the eurotunnel it's never been an issue when UK border agency look at it (the french never bother) but flying, the border agency always spend some time looking closely at it. |
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Isn't the reason they are stricter on air travel requirements because a plane has a much higher risk of getting diverted to a non-EU country in an emergency or foul weather etc?
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Meh. I actually stuck a slightly different spelling into google and it gave me the above, couldn't be bothered to think further about it  . |
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| Pete. wrote: | Isn't the reason they are stricter on air travel requirements because a plane has a much higher risk of getting diverted to a non-EU country in an emergency or foul weather etc? |
Aviation security has always been a much greater issue as the potential is greater.
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| Pete. wrote: | Isn't the reason they are stricter on air travel requirements because a plane has a much higher risk of getting diverted to a non-EU country in an emergency or foul weather etc? |
Dunno, can't imagine diversions out of the EEA are common given it's a fairly contiguous land mass. I think it's just down to the fear of planes being hijacked - you can do a lot with a plane, but a boat is fairly easily contained. |
It depends where in the EEA you are, but the EEC became the EC which is now the EU, and for international aviations sake, the EU is essentially one country, all governed by the EU and EU-Ops rather than by each individual country.
Except it isn't always. And the UK is governed by the CAA using rules set by the EU. It's a very confusing political clusterfuck.
But diverting outside the EU from within isn't necessarily that uncommon... it depends on where you are. Southern Spain/Itay/Greece are all close to northern Africa. Why you are diverting is as big a factor at the time as to whether you divert within the EU or not.
Domestic flights in the UK do not require a passport, only a form of ID, but I know plenty of domestic flights that have diverted to places like France or Ireland. Ideally though with a domestic flight if you can't divert to relatively near your destination you'll divert back to your starting point.
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