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Posted: 10:37 - 29 Nov 2016 Post subject: |
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But again (again) if the commercial income justifies building an entirely new circuit from scratch, plus infrastructure to support it, it surely justifies rebuilding an existing one?
I think what I'm trying to get at is that it probably doesn't, and that the whole thing is a wheeze to funnel tends or hundreds of millions of taxpayers' money into consultants' and contractors' pockets, with no intention of ever seeing it through. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Posted: 11:24 - 07 Dec 2016 Post subject: |
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It now seems that Lord Kinnock 'accidentally' copy-pastad a whole stack of Circuit of Wales begging letters on House of Lords paper.
The Taffy Tories want him turfed off taffy.gov's EU advisory group over it.
Still no actual movement on the site itself, of course. They need to Fundrazr it. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Posted: 11:28 - 12 Dec 2016 Post subject: |
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We're close, baby, so close.
Adam Aarons, or whomever they've got running the bid, is now touting it as a potential Formula 1 circuit because... why not? Anything's possible in Imagination Land. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Circuit of Wales creates another 30 local jobs.
No, wait, not creates. The other thing. Destroys. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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It's all go-go-go today. Motor racing? Not enough. Now it's a world-leading sports, leisure and entertainment complex
"Mountain Bike Trails, BMX Park, Indoor Skiing, Trampolining, Skatepark, Surf Park, Virtual Reality Zone, Live Music Stages plus two hotels and a campsite"
https://i3.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article12409908.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/EXTREME-MASTERPLAN-MAIN-IMAGE.png
Looks like they're throwing everything at the bid in the hope that something will stick. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Music to my ears... we will however just be left with a place to dump an old couch. ____________________ Life begins at the end of your comfort zone. |
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chris-red Have you considered a TDM?
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Is Adam Aarons in charge? ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
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Posted: 11:12 - 17 Jan 2017 Post subject: |
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Stimulating the Taffy economy by awarding the construction deal to some Catalan cowboys, with a mealy mouthed explanation of "We're a private company, we don't have to discuss the tender process. Now back us with public money."
In other bikesportnews, amid an interesting article on the state of circuits and racing in the UK, "Wales won't happen" is the terse verdict. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Posted: 11:48 - 26 Jan 2017 Post subject: |
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Two weeks to pay the rent or the orphanage gets burned to the ground.
Well, two weeks to name the secret investors, or taffy.gov will jolly well, er... send an even sterner memo. You see if they don't, look you. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Today's stop on the loltrain:
HotVDC: Yeah, mate, yeah, BMW is gagging to build Motorrad World there, be like Jurassic Park but with cars and bikes and that, well up for it.
BMW: Nein, zis is einer untruth.
HotVDC: We totes never said nothing like that and anyway it was a secret meeting so taking notes of what we said was well bogus. Fite!
Wow, they've finally gone FULL RAINPAL. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Shock turnaround.
We've totally got £425m in private money, we have, we have. [stamps feet]
OK, go on then, build your mud pit. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Any official announcement of the money they definitely have yet?
Might as well just quit now, even if they do manage to actually move earth the chances of them having a finished circuit at the end are nil.
To be honest in my opinion the chances of them actually breaking earth is nil anyway. ____________________ My Flickr |
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They do seem to have some actual backers now, and the deal appears to be that they need to complete the circuit with their own money before taffy.gov will step in to pick up up to £200 million in further costs or to write down debts.
Of course, that's fantasy - if they get it even part-way complete, they'll come begging for public funds to finish it off, as the rateable and taxable income jobs from a 99% complete circuit is zero.
A leeked report from a Welsh economist makes the pretty strong point that you could outright buy Silverstone for £50 million, if you wanted to own a complete circuit that still can't turn a profit even with Formula 1.
So why would you spend nine times as much to build a competing circuit that won't even have the top tier of racing? You'd only do that if you were eager to lose money.
And if taffy.gov have £200 million (or even £100 million, given a generous 50:50 chance of success) to burn, why not invest it in existing successful businesses that are looking to expand?
A very good question, and one which I hope Welshlanders are asking their elected representatives at this time. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 68 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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