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 Posted: 23:23 - 19 Aug 2014 Post subject: Post test tips |
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I know this may have been done before but things change, anyway as I've got a larger bike and passed my bike test IO want to actually focus on my riding more.
So has anyone got any good advanced riding tips/things to read. I've got a copy of twist the wrist and roadcraft. But is there anything else that you would recommend looking at/tips  ____________________ CB125>CG125>GN125>ER5>K100RS>R1100RS>K100RS
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Only recently got round to watching these after downloading them ages ago. Although nothing majorly mind-blowing, the Superbike school/Twist of the wrist 2 ones particularly were interesting and did teach me a fair few bits and pieces and consider my riding in some ways. Beware of the TERRIBLE acting in Twist of the wrist though
Not sure if the TOTR2 film is the same as the book, haven't read the book myself.
The police roadcraft book is what the BikeSafe training the Police provide is based around - and their own training. I did a BikeSafe course a few weeks back with a couple of people off the forum and it was good fun. If you've already read that book you will probably know whats going to be taught in all fairness, but it was still a good fun and social weekend, and it was interesting seeing it put into practice behind/in front of the Police riders. They were also really decent the whole weekend - I've read before they've been patronising and condescending in how the course is delivered - our guys were the total opposite, very open and approachable. It wasn't about ''don't speed'', just about riding method and awareness. Also some basic first aid thrown in Not sure if its the usual price - I seem to recall when I looked into it around Bristol a few years ago it was about 50 quid up there, but down in Dorset we only paid 25 quid for the full two day weekend which was great value.
Beyond that theres IAM and Rospa stuff for 'advanced riding' training - not sure about doing this yet as i've also heard mixed reviews about the attitudes of the groups, and its not exactly cheap. |
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Smiler... you have a certain, err... 'duality' to your psyce, which I can only 'advanced riding techniques' some-what compounding, taking you back to where you started. On the one hand, you over think everything, and where you lack knowledge, your imagination makes enormous leaps painting in the gaps... then you get on the bike... and 'thinking' happens on a rather different, and often quite detached level to the reflex responses of controlling a motorcycle... as long as the detachement is large enough... you have survived... 'cos your brain hasn't done anything to fuck up the bike... and your hands and legs have been getting on with the job instinctively, like walking.... then you have a wibble, and a conciouse thought interupts what your body is doing... and you trip over a crisp packet or ride into a turn-pike or what-ever!
DO NOT read or watch twist of the wrist... Code, in his philosophy for riding does have some good ideas... unfortunately dummed down for 'mericans... a lot of the reasoning behind his suggestions are lost, and repetition distortion has turned suggestions into mantra, and made it very very dangerouse.... and if you start THINKING about that sort of crap... well.... you never know when your brain will have one of those moments and instruct your body to do something not very helpful!
STOP THINKING - START RIDING
All you need do... stop having 'ideas'... cant have bad ones then...
Otherwise, its riding a motorbike; it's not piloting a super-tanker in and out of port, or performing lazer micro-surgery... there's not THAT much to it, that needs THAT much thinking about... so stop thinking! Get doing!
Normalise your riding, start trusting your reflexes and instincts and letting them do the business end of riding... remember, when you dont trust them... that's when you have fucked up. So don't give your imagination any more fuel to start interfering with your reflexes and instincts... take up crochet, or follow the stock market, learn Manderin, get some language tapes on MP3 and learn while you ride or SOMETHING to keep that over active imagination of yours occupied on ANYTHING but worrying about riding a motorbike! Reflex and instinct are doing a good enough job, for now left to get on with it!
Riding motorbikes is an intuitive process, not an intellectual one, so stop intellectualising the job... enjoy the tactile and intuitive, and let that evolve, and your riding will get better WITHOUT fretting over the Hendon Shuffle, Vanishing points, corner geometry or code-concious-counter-steer, or any other intellectual influence. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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If you aren't going to take further training the only way to learn is through experience. Tag along with some people who have been riding for a while, work out for yourself who is safe and follow them. Don't be tempted to ride faster than you feel comfortable - you will pick up speed with time... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
Gone (in order of ownership) - Raleigh Runabout, AP50, KH125, GP125, KH250, CBX550, Z400, CB750FII, 250LC, GS550, ZXR750H1, Guzzi Targa, GSX750F, KH250 x2, Bimota SB6R and counting... |
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I find myself agreeing with Mike.
Weird; I usually agree with everyone else.
Relax. You've proved all that you need to prove. Don't feel that you have to join some Roadcruft cult or develop an unstoppable streetfighting technique.
Enjoy what you've earned. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Avoid gravel.
Don't turn or lean hard on gravel.
Don't use excessive front brake on gravel.
Don't fall off on gravel.
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Felt the same after my test(s), you feel you need extra training as you've become so accustomed to a tiddler. What I think helps is riding different bikes (maybe borrow Fisty's ), as they teach you something new, and help make you a more complete rider. ____________________ Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 212 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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