Sneaky pigs busted

[Mario_Kempes]

naughty naughty, piggies.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/video-sneaky-scots-police-officers-4086708

[Rogerborg]

I'd offer to translate from Ned, but I don't understand a word of it either.

Also, I can't see what they're doing wrong. They're in uniform, that's all that's required to oblige a stop.

Lastly, where's the motorcycle?
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[Tungtvann]

Clearly that same rule doesn't apply in England!

[Rogerborg]

What rule?

Policy might vary from Farce to Farce, but policy isn't law and warranted Constables can do policing largely how they like.

I can see nothing in what they were doing that (anywhere in the UK) would queer the pitch for a successful conviction.

What's the problem?
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[angryjonny]

As far as I'm aware the law requires cameras to be clearly marked and identifiable. I don't believe the same is true for uniformed officers with speed guns. Neds appear to be confusing the two. So yeah, as Rogerborg says, technically no laws broken here. Rozzers can hide in a hedge with a speed gun if they like, as long as they collar you on the spot in uniform. We might not like it, but they can do it.

Also - entrapment (as claimed by the Neds in the video) is essentially the process of the police somehow causing you to commit a crime you wouldn't have otherwise committed. That clearly isn't happening here.

[Snorty]

I don't know why he thinks it's entrapment?

People are more inclined to do what they would usually do if the police are invisible.

Not saying I agree with it, or any cameras for that matter.
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[map]

IMHO evidence that they're out to just raise money rather than being a visible road safety message.

It's not that speed kills, it's speed makes money.

As I've said before it's inappropriate use of speed that is sometimes dangerous. It's just that doesn't make a good sound bite or bumper sticker.
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[angryjonny]

IMO if it was *really* about money they wouldn't give you points on your licence. You'd be free to rack up as many fines as you wanted.

It's really about letting you know who is in charge. The public are so much easier to deal with when they're scared. So just make sure there's always a nagging worry about an [imminent NIP] or [miscalculated tax return] or [a V5 that didn't quite make it to the right department at the DVLA] rattling around in the back of everyone's minds.

[blueglue]

To be fair what does it matter if they are marked or unmarked.

If you've seen them its already too late.

[Rogerborg]

[Raffles]

I've just taken a brief look at the man behind the camera. He's a little darling:-

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/glasgow-yob-jailed-after-facebook-6511896

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/thugs-who-beat-man-to-death-961543
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[weasley]

The prevailing view of the law by many is that things are "against the law" or "illegal" because:

1. I read/heard someone else say it was
2. I misread/misunderstood something I read/heard myself
3. It ought to be.

With the limited field of view of the (portrait-filmed) video we can't be sure if what they were doing was perfectly legal or not, but on the face of it, it appears perfectly legitimate.

What irks me, though, is the police officer's response. A lack-lustre and defensive retort that further fuels the situation, rather than an informed and authoritative response based on the facts. She comes across as knowing as much about the law as they do.
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[angryjonny]

[Snorty]

[Dave70]

Excuse my ignorance but, what on earth is a ned
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[angryjonny]

Gaelic for 'chav'.

[Dave70]

[Itchy]

[Snorty]

Or you'll trip mid-arrest, breaking 5 ribs, fracturing an eye socket, breaking an arm.

Real hazardous.
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[spikenipple]

[dan_flash]

Video won't load but I think I get the jist.

[Snorty]

That would be awful.

Being the pushover nation that we are I'm sure we'd embrace that with open arms.
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[stinkwheel]

[ScaredyCat]

The one plus point of living in Holland...

.. speed, pay the fine... speed pay, the fine ... rinse repeat... No points.

Always out at the start or end of the month to make up quotas. Always publish their location, always move on when pointed and tutted at.

[Snorty]

I rarely look at my speedo apart from when going through a zone littered with speed cameras, in which case I'm rarely looking away from it.

I generally just stick to a speed which I feel I could stop from should something materialise. Sometimes that may be less than the speed limits (double parked car type roads).

The limits need a revamp.
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