Rieju RS1 Project

[WD Forte]

Like Easy-X I'd take a more pragmatic approach and use or devise
seperate regulator and flasher relays using off the shelf stuff

Having a hard to find box of potted components that does two seperate jobs may be convenient during manufacture but its a costly PITA for owners trying to keep stuff running later on.
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[Just_James]

[WD Forte]

Its piece of piss to sort out if electrics don't baffle you
Fair enough, not everyone is happy playing with 'wires n shit'
but we're talking pretty basic stuff here.

If it were my bike I'd use two seperate units for charging and flashers
for practical reasons if nothing else.
If we had the wiring diagram, I or others could suggest how to do the conversion using cheap and easily obtainable components
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[Just_James]

[Riejufixing]

[Just_James]

Not got a number off original unit unfortunately. I did try but a wire brush revealed ' Made In Spain' and 'Pat Pending'
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Current Bikes / Projects: 1999 Rieju RS1 50
Previous bikes - 1986 DT125R (field bike), 1989 KX250, 1980 KX420 (with 500cc big bore), 1992 YZ250, 1988 KX500, 1989 XR250R, 1988 VFR400R NC24, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 2008 Rieju RS2 50 , 1993 Honda NSR 125

[Riejufixing]

[WD Forte]

Hang on, just seen you have posted a WD.
I dont follow every post in every thread (aint nobody got time for that)

I says the bottom left item is the winker switch when it's obviously the starter relay
Top right the 'kickstand locking screw' and 'regulator lock screw look dodgy to me

I don't trust that diagram, looks a bit crap to me
had a quick shufty

I reckon the 'kickstand locking screw' is probably the CDI unit and/or ignition coil.

Regulator 6 pin:

Purple, out to flasher switch
( blue right Orange left)
Yellow, AC in
Red, DC out
Black, ground
Green, DC in to flasher unit

easy enough to mod IMO
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[Just_James]

[Just_James]

[WD Forte]

there ya go then
Cut off the purple and green wires and connect em to a 2 wire flasher unit
Green power in Purle power out to switch
maybe add a ground if its a 3 wire type.

Buy of these and connect the 2 yellow wires to 2 terminals of the 3 way plug and red to red and black to black on the 2 way plug for DC out.
job done

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lexmoto-Pulse-Adrenaline-125-Supermoto-Reg-Rec-Regulator-Rectifier/392351174497?hash=item5b59f3cf61%3Ag%3AeegAAOSwueNanLvq&LH_ItemCondition=3
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[Easy-X]

Mmm... I discounted the "winker relay" and lock screw stuff as a bad translation but the more I look at that diagram the more I dislike it

Having said that I still doubt that relay does anything too bizarre and I stand by my regulator + flasher unit idea. How to tackle it though if electrics aren't your thing Any friends that might help?

As simply as I can put it:

Regulator: two wires come in from the magneto, two wires go out to the battery. Super generic example:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RECTIFIER-REGULATOR-Wassells-Solid-State-Single-Phase-12V-160W/264365826934

The yellow wires are AC so it generally doesn't matter which is which. Red & black go out to the battery. (Positive & Negative respectively)

A generic 2-wire flasher unit:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-21W-LED-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Scooter-Flasher-Relay-Can-Unit-2-pin-ANY-WATT/113075695559

In this case the Terminal marked "B" is connected to switched power from the ignition and the "L" is the output to the handlebar switch.

If one were to replace the combo unit then:

a) verify all the colours go where you think they should. "Where do these yellow wires go?" etc.

b) cut off the plug and fit new connectors - the scary bit!
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[Just_James]

Ok, thanks again for the help with this.

Just trying to be confident before I commit to buy....

So, happy enough with flasher relay, straight forward enough with green and purple wires.

The rectifier, I'm still not sure. Why does the yellow go to two seperate pins when it is spliced together (according to diagram)?

Was looking at this cheap rectifier
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-4-Wire-Full-Wave-Black-Motorcycle-Regulator-Rectifier-12V-DC-Bike-Quad/173420139743

Wiring instructions say:

Yellow, White or Pink = AC Inputs (from the stator to the regulator rectifier)
Red = V+(from the regulator rectifier to the positive battery terminal via a fuse)
Green = V-(from the regulator rectifier to the negative battery terminal)
Black = Vsense

So that would be yellow to my yellow (both?)
Red to my red
Green to my black
Black to ?
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Current Bikes / Projects: 1999 Rieju RS1 50
Previous bikes - 1986 DT125R (field bike), 1989 KX250, 1980 KX420 (with 500cc big bore), 1992 YZ250, 1988 KX500, 1989 XR250R, 1988 VFR400R NC24, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 2008 Rieju RS2 50 , 1993 Honda NSR 125

[Riejufixing]

Send a message to the bloke on eBay and see if he'll take a tenner, or £12.50, £15 or whatever you think fit. You never know ("Racing Planet have one for £17.94, and this is a second-hand one for £19.99, & I'm skint"

[Easy-X]

Or you could save all that bother and just type in "4 wire regulator"

As to the diagram, it makes literally no sense

Again, WTF is a "kickstand locking screw" and why are 3 wires going into it and only one going out?

I would suggest tracing back the yellow wires to see where they go. My bet is they go straight to the magneto and aren't joined at all.
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Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter

[Riejufixing]

[Easy-X]

If you get a decent, understandable reply then at least you know you've got a good seller so I concede the point.
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[WD Forte]

Jeez, Talk about making things complicated,

Here's an even cheaper ( £6.91)one with 2 AC inputs to make it even easier and cheaper


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-4-Wire-Full-Wave-Black-Motorcycle-Regulator-Rectifier-12V-DC-Bike-Quad/392217542260?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225076%26meid%3Da40ed8d56ca54c5fbe3ddc1d4c32af78%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D283599544654%26itm%3D392217542260%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithSearchFilter%26brand%3DUnbranded%2FGeneric&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

Here's a 2 pin flasher relay
£ 10.64 for both
how feckin cheap and easy do you want it?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-2-Pin-Blinker-Adjustable-LED-Flasher-Relay-Turn-Signal-Indicator-J7/264453695822?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item3d92ab294e:g:T70AAOSwnVhaLjtM&enc=AQAEAAACUBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qW4jMuzpugidr27Ih4dumLYm01iqBFwI7a%2FwIQ9v4fW4U2bvPAytnyCLUmRmza6%2FsgytXrmZHhLipJgMKiqrUE2dWQR3BK19JhTtevtPaJ05asK5VC0LWbPjx7OR71Rc88Mfy1K4mOrCIcCMtDVKAkVXw2LL9xF0wUVt8AqFszfnSgKRv6Z21hzDP1tO4pL3u7GLmv02vct8nuA%2FrVybPEIJ7eJBuk8VxBkgjAYxSF2Qe0R0nuO2WxhutJpsizjmUbuCpv3evX7tWpcZo%2BrSGyxEiL74YQVdripV9XrDPAJMiN1DVwILp8enL19P%2F2QK6%2BVn%2B2GaE%2F%2B2z7Sb8HRko3d7SjrR9zYkx91y41bPLT5A8ZvN%2F%2Bj64XRCQAeh8ZrsD%2F3jUP30%2FCdNMxrtvNinCOdGsV6XUy09x2wY3%2FRSX1e4Zrk%2BTvEIDucAlsKu%2BeFy03X72M7AvEwpMq91i49La6SnlomjwbotHunBnSV47wYqEOkhRVAFFU5pedyylPkz6G1O2NI1rsXTx8nBod8k8BGfXblsoeGtkoXXY7hpqWY514pkUkMAUluhSHKfxGFLlFW1xRG%2FZiLvaxEffoRRNvNkTxmFh3i3GQ1eZK87F49MncDyLE%2FAb5xQHgRkBKUV8N3VMPfIYLowEHVekVa%2FooDLHFZcyVZ6EItXa3rDIC6ioIySjDg5S7rjWESYCLC9%2F2yu1HRNeLKdoexs36yfXhdk5t6SvBSgU%2FFqWCc9HjdqMbEyjbOfoCsySAkK%2FBbErU%3D&checksum=264453695822869dc480bc794b2999a0ec5447475d38
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[Just_James]

Well to be fair, I haven't insisted that it be really cheap (the original one I ordered from Germany was £45 posted) and what's simple to you isn't necessarily to me.

I don't mind spending money to solve the issues but obviously want to avoid wasting money on something that doesn't work or is beyond my capabilities to cellotape together.... and if a generic £5 rectifier does the exact same thing that a £20 one does, I'd rather make that saving too.... I'm self employed and have zero income right now

I was asking for information about the wiring instructions that are on the listing for the four wire rectifier as I'm struggling to make sense of it.

They are exactly the same as the ones on the listing you posted (I won't mention that it's £1.82 more expensive than the one I posted)


Yellow, White or Pink = AC Inputs (from the stator to the regulator rectifier)
Red = V+(from the regulator rectifier to the positive battery terminal via a fuse)
Green = V-(from the regulator rectifier to the negative battery terminal)
Black = Vsense

[nick.h]

I've got another option for you, the RS1 was my first bike and its currently waiting down the side of the house ready to be scrapped. There's not much left of it but there's still some useful parts I'm sure. No promises it works but must be worth a try. Reg is yours if you want it.
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[nick.h]

Just took it off the bike, it cleaned up well - nothing obviously wrong with it. If you still need it PM me your address and I'll pop it in the post.
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[Just_James]