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PostPosted: 21:25 - 11 Sep 2014    Post subject: Harry's police rider tboned by a taxi Reply with quote

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2752691/Harry-crash-drama-Prince-s-shock-motorobike-outrider-smashes-head-taxi.html

Typical taxi.

Ffs police bike with lights on and right turn on to him.

For once the driver came off worse and well done for the bike for remaining standing up.
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 11 Sep 2014    Post subject: Re: Harry's police rider tboned by a taxi Reply with quote

kawakid wrote:

taxi


'nuff said
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 11 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting as Henry Cole on that motorcycle show did a piece on the special escort. He showed the bikes race ahead and stop opposite junctions to stop traffic turning out. I have even come across that when normal police bikers stopped traffic for a charity event. So why not on this occasion?

I think staying upright has more to do with the crumple zones on the Prius. Still, got to applaud vfr1200 build quality, no sign of rust or flux.
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 11 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speeding, wrong side of the road. Tut tut Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 22:08 - 11 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw these bikes (not necessarily the same riders) doing another escort through central London yesterday evening, around 6:20pm. I found their riding pretty crazily aggressive - they were flying out in front of moving traffic and stopping, forcing the traffic to stop and pave way for the black car. They were flying in to the junctions/roundabouts at pretty high speed and coming to an abrupt stop. Seemed pretty reckless unless they were urgently on the way somewhere.

Haven't watched the video on the website.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 11 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
Haven't watched the video on the website.


Not a very high frame rate on it, not very good quality.
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 11 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not one single mention of a "speeding biker" in the whole article, not what you expect from the "Fail"!
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 11 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
I saw these bikes (not necessarily the same riders) doing another escort through central London yesterday evening, around 6:20pm. I found their riding pretty crazily aggressive - they were flying out in front of moving traffic and stopping, forcing the traffic to stop and pave way for the black car. They were flying in to the junctions/roundabouts at pretty high speed and coming to an abrupt stop. Seemed pretty reckless unless they were urgently on the way somewhere.

Haven't watched the video on the website.


Bizarrely, I wrote a post in another thread a couple of days ago about how aggressive the guys in the Range were. Thinking back, I also have to agree the outriders were pretty cavalier as well. Had no idea who they were escorting but think I have a better idea now!

Also I don't get why my taxpayers money pays for such an extensive police escort. Why the anachronistic idea that someone born into wealth and privilege should also get from A to B faster than the hard-working men and women of this country?
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:
Speeding, wrong side of the road. Tut tut Rolling Eyes


So you'd prefer to have hit the door Smile
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PostPosted: 01:57 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a surprise that it was a minicab. They are truly the worst drivers on the road, in fact I'd go so far as to say more than half of them have driving standards so low they should not be allowed to drive.


I've a friend whose work sometimes involves him & superiors having police outrider escort through the city, and he says he's surprised by the reaction of a lot of other drivers, they panic and tend to do really fucking stupid things.



Good to hear that the rider has been discharged already. Can't have been too badly injured.

I do hope whoever removed his helmet and put him in the recovery position knows how to clear a c-spine though. If it was some "everyone move back I'm first aid trained" member of the public then they wouldn't have a fucking clue, and lucky he didn't have any spinal injuries or that could have resulted in paralysis or worse. If it was someone with relevant training then that is redundant.
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PostPosted: 08:09 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, a head on accident with a motorcycle and the car really does look like it's come off worse - and the driver is more badly injured to boot... not a good advert for Prius.
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PostPosted: 08:30 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inappropriate speed for the conditions, overtaking at a junction, what an absolute raging cock, deserved worse than he got.

Totes SRS. Bunch of overgrown Boy Scouts giving if "Must protect God-Emperor Junior from terrorrrrrr! Gor bless yer, sire! Make way or die, worthless peons!"
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

im with Roger on this one (happening a lot recently lol)

things i never do - speed through london, overtake at junctions, overtake at junctions in london, whilst speeding.

the guy should have known better, after all, he has had extensive police training and used to ride a 'blade.............. Rolling Eyes

that said, hope all involved make a full recovery Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always fancied a go at this, ragging round london tooled up shouting at traffic sounds brilliant Laughing



I'd like to think inappropriate speed would be cancelled out by the flashing sirens but there you go.

Regardless cops with get the blame IIRC they always do on blues and twos.
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

As soon as I saw this, I thought mini-cab...

I was expecting Addison Lee, but I think not even they are that retarded!

Probably an 'Executive' private hire company. They drive like cunts and have no place on the UKs roads.
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PostPosted: 08:53 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Llama-Farmer wrote:
Not a surprise that it was a minicab. They are truly the worst drivers on the road, in fact I'd go so far as to say more than half of them have driving standards so low they should not be allowed to drive.

I can't agree. Royal Mail drivers are the worst. Reckless speeding in 5 tonne trucks through small streets, around blind corners, running red lights, all sorts.
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
...I'd like to think inappropriate speed would be cancelled out by the flashing sirens but there you go...

Apparently don't use sirens. As in (one source, there are others)...
Wikipedia wrote:
...SEG officers on Honda VFR1200 motorcycles use whistles in preference to sirens (which are not fitted). This reduces the level of noise that precedes an escort and reduces the environmental impact on the escorted person and general public....
...but then it might be this reason...
LBC wrote:
...To avoid them being in violation of the regulations that govern Blues & Twos - you can only put your siren on if you're going on the rescue. ...

Although I understand they'll have flashing blues.
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

gorillaonabike wrote:

Also I don't get why my taxpayers money pays for such an extensive police escort. Why the anachronistic idea that someone born into wealth and privilege should also get from A to B faster than the hard-working men and women of this country?


I can see why an escort is needed, because if people realised a royal was sitting at traffic lights then all hell could break loose. Then there is fear of attack etc.

However, I do completely agree that there is no need for the excessive speed, surely it's just not necessary and adding an element of unwanted danger.
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="_Troy_"]
gorillaonabike wrote:
However, I do completely agree that there is no need for the excessive speed, surely it's just not necessary and adding an element of unwanted danger.


The only evidence in the article of excessive speed is the cyclist who said the convoy was moving at "incredibly high speed", and then decided he could chase them on his pushbike! Maybe there are others here more expert than me, but I'm not convinced you can tell from that CCTV how fast the bike was going.

On videos I've seen of SEG work (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8A_Un28wc8 for example) show that they actually travel relatively slowly. It's the consistency they achieve by stopping traffic that makes the overall journeys quicker.

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PostPosted: 09:29 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

gorillaonabike wrote:

Also I don't get why my taxpayers money pays for such an extensive police escort. Why the anachronistic idea that someone born into wealth and privilege should also get from A to B faster than the hard-working men and women of this country?



Because otherwise There might be an attack or kidnap attempt, similar to what happened to princess Anne years ago. Her reaction to it was great the bloke shouted at her to get out of the car after shooting her driver and bodyguard her response was "Not Bloody likely" Laughing In the end some East End boxer punched the armed attacker in the head, saved the day and won the George Medal IIRC.
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteveSmith wrote:


On videos I've seen of SEG work (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8A_Un28wc8 for example) show that they actually travel relatively slowly. It's the consistency they achieve by stopping traffic that makes the overall journeys quicker.

Steve.

Depends, often they are continually overtaking to get ahead and clear traffic or briefly block junctions.
The convoy itself moves at moderate speed but the bikes are often really pushing it.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
Interesting as Henry Cole on that motorcycle show did a piece on the special escort. He showed the bikes race ahead and stop opposite junctions to stop traffic turning out. I have even come across that when normal police bikers stopped traffic for a charity event. So why not on this occasion?


Looks like he was moving to block the junction, but he was taken out by a taxi before he got there.
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The taxi driver didn't look to see if there was a motorbike travelling at high speed on the wrong side of the road when he pulled out.

No shit, I'm sure he didn't look lots of places where traffic shouldn't be coming from
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 12 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta say, I feel sorry for the taxi driver in this case, even if he was driving a prius.

I wonder if the police rider will be done for driving without due care?

As a driver, my asessment of someone riding along the wrong side of the road, while overtaking at a junction at a high enough speed to bury a motorcycle three feet into the bonnet of a Prius in a built-up area falls below that expected of a reasonably competant driver. As a police rider, he has an exemption for speeding if he can justify it was necessary but NO driver has an exemption for careless driving.

If that case came before me in a Jury trial, I'd have to convict him.

Of course, he was probably actually just testing the capabilities of his vehicle...
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