norfolks new think bike video. WOW.

[beeto]

https://www.norfolk.police.uk/newsandevents/newsstories/2014/september/hardhittingvideolaunched.aspx

sorry if it's been posted before.

Very hard hitting video and interview about an accident in which the rider died in 2013.

Hats off to the police and his family for making this video.
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[P.]

Unsure what bike that is but that was a fairly quick and brutal move by the car.

Felt cold when it hit, I'll be honest. But 60 road, smashing past cars... I wouldn't say I don't do that but you takes your risks...

[chris-red]

Really hard hitting video, my stomach dropped when i heard the no and the smash. Mum seems ace, lovely, normal person and I appreciate she is trying to do something good with this must have been hard for he to watch the footage and talk about it.

Personally I would have done everything he did up until about 2:50, I would have been on the brakes then, see a junction, slow down. Not saying I would have avoided the smash but I certainly would have been at a slower speed. Wanging past single cars at 3 figures on a country lane with good visibility isn't dangerous. Danger comes from losing the viability in the bends, queue of traffic where other cars try to overtake and junctions.

Another thing that might have egged him on, and I know it eggs me on is going to a motorsport event of any kind. I don't think I've been to any event from Banger Racing to BSB where it didn't leave me with a buzz that makes me drive quicker on the way home
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[Matt B]

Horrible, that made my stomach churn, and they hang on just a bit too long at the end with him not moving...

I would of rolled off the throttle when I spotted the car waiting.
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[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

Fuuucckkk.

We're just too vulnerable.
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[Spireite]

that certainly concentrates the mind.
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[DrSnoosnoo]

Wow.

What an impact that video has had on me! Not that I ride doing silly speeds either just seeing how quickly things can change.

We can all learn from it, coming up to junctions slow down, seeing a car go into the lane for the turning - definitely slow down!

Such message. Them feels.
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[Knacker]

I used to ride down that road every day and that Junction is a nightmare. But doing 97mph and not expecting the car to pull out is the reason this video exists.

My heart goes out to the family and incredible amounts of respect for putting the clip to good use.
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[notbike]

Wow that was hard watch :S you sort of realize how fragile we are. Slowing down for a junction is always something you should automatically do regardless whether you think the car has seen you or not, or even if you think the junction is clear when it might not be.

Regardless of how spirited your ride is, you should always go at a pace where you know you can stop before the junction suddenly if you need to, or have an approach speed where if something did happen last minute you could at least make a decent attempt to swerve or speed out of the situation.

My automatic response to coming near junctions is to scrub off speed, there's one bend I take on a regular basis on my way to work which is very tight and completely blind and has a side road that lets traffic join it midway, it's a 30 limit but you would be a total wanker if you went round it at 30, even taking it at 20 is risky if someone jumps out in front of you mid way and you can't see their car until its about 5ft away from you.

The moment you start thinking "He must have seen me, he wont cross my path" that's when you're in big danger. It's a shame he didn't walk away with a lesson learned and had to suffer the worst consequence but that's how it goes I guess.

[barrkel]

[HotdogMcDraw]

The roads where i live are very quiet and open, lots of bikers here do stupid speeds thinking they will be ok. If only i could have shown this footage to a dick head biker who almost smashed into my bike the other day whilst doing around 110mph on a 60 because he made an emergency swerve, all because he/she was expecting everyone else to move out of the way for him.
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[Musketeer]

The car was indicating. I don't know what you do in situation like this but I always slow down. He just kept going at speed.

Not his fault, but with experience you learn not to trust other people on the road.

RIP
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[wristjob]

i think you guys are in very poor taste using phrases like "hard hitting video" and "what an impact that video had on me"

[growler]

I know this is going to make me sound like an idiot but

damn that made me cry

sitting at work as well
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[stinkwheel]

Well that got my arse twitching good and proper, like a flashback. There but for good luck, reasonable obs and totally amazing obs on the part of another driver go I.

I've had someone pull that exact move on me from a stacker lane except I WAS paying a lot of attention, had a wide line and moved right to go round the back of the car. The car driver then stopped halfway out of the stacker lane at 90 degrees to the road and stared at me like a frightened rabbit leaving me with a rapidly collapsing options waveform. Straight into the side of her, head-on with the car behind her or head on into possible oncoming traffic in the right hand lane.

Not being a quitter, I went for the right hand lane braking the whole time and hoping anyone coming would move over a bit so I could slot between them and the stacker lane. The driver who had been behind her in the stacker lane was a super-switched-on cookie and was already reversing at full speed leaving me space to sweep back across behind her.

I finished on the verge in exactly the same place as that guy except sat on the bike facing the hedge and not dead.

There was a full mile of clear road on the approach and I was rocking a single, conical beam headlight and probably not going as fast as 97.

From that day forwards I have always weaved side-to-side a little when approaching a stacker lane like that to give any cars a trigger that something odd is coming up.
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[Moxey]

I just do not trust people at junctions end of, if some dozy shit didn't see me at 25 mph like fuck are they going to see me +30 over the speed limit its just not worth it for the potential outcome.
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[Al]

There was a post on here about the accident at the time, I think the driver got a 12/18 month ban in the end which they tried to appeal.
The judge said that although the bike was speeding it would have been visible for 7 seconds.
Both are guilty of making mistakes, just that one is dead and the other is probably a little annoyed by higher insurance premiums.
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[Celera]

Well I'm pleased I watched that literally a minute before I ride home on roads similar to that

Seriously though, I'd swap watching that every day and remembering to be careful and plan than end up in anything like that.

[MC]

What a sickening impact

Yes he was speeding, yes he should of seen the car/junction and slowed, but the car had f**king ages to see the bike.
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[Mark_F]

There's no excuse for the driver not seeing that bike (or the car behind) when it was so close. That seems to be the main point the police are trying to get across, there's no mention of his actual speed in the video (even though it is in the text), just that he was going "fast" (which is pretty ambiguous, especially on a 60 road, everyone should be going relatively "fast").

[j00pY]

Very sad video. Its very surreal with him just waving goodbye to everyone and then a few mins later he is dead. Well done to his parents for being brave enough to make the video. My family have strict instructions that they will not let the police use my helmet cam footage if that happens to me.

[JP7]

Poor chap. My heart sank when I saw what was about to happen. I can't begin to imagine his thoughts as he realised he couldn't do anything.

My utmost respect goes to his family for being brave and strong enough to release that footage. And most of all, RIP David.

[covent.gardens]

The saddest thing for me is seeing that his last second, instinctive course alteration probably killed him. It redirected him straight in to a tree. Without that swerve he'd have hit the car and been catapulted along the road in something resembling a straight line and would have at least had a chance of survival.