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Paris2
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 15 Sep 2014    Post subject: Network Training Courses Reply with quote

I have been working in IT for around 18 months now for a telecoms company, although we work mainly in phones and internet I would describe my job as all round networking.

Before I started my job here I didn't have any IT experience, so have basically learnt while doing, which is fine as I have learnt fast through the need to.
Although I generally know what I am doing and am very confident with the products we sell and support I would like some sort of formal qualification. Not only to have something to my name, but also I don't feel confident speaking to other IT professionals, as I am not comfortable that what I am saying is fact.

So what qualifications do you guys have (if any), and are they worth doing in general? Recommendations for any that are regarded well by future employers if the need arises?
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 15 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch the free CCNA videos at INE.com, and pass the 2 exams.

I use CCNA as an easy first pass filter when looking at CVs for network engineers.
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 15 Sep 2014    Post subject: Re: Network Training Courses Reply with quote

The difference between experience and not is how confident you sound in your own bullshit.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 16 Sep 2014    Post subject: Re: Network Training Courses Reply with quote

Paris2 wrote:
Not only to have something to my name, but also I don't feel confident speaking to other IT professionals, as I am not comfortable that what I am saying is fact.


Depends on what situation you are in as to whether this works or not but in my situation I find that this works for me all/most of time.
I just do it, provide the solution. Amaze them by taking the initiative and fixing their problems before they ask for a solution. Then just sit there like a boss and don't say anything while they sit there in amazement.
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 16 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:
Watch the free CCNA videos at INE.com, and pass the 2 exams.

I use CCNA as an easy first pass filter when looking at CVs for network engineers.


I'll take a look Thumbs Up Is the CCNA relevant for most situations, or is it very Cisco orientated?

el_oso wrote:

I just do it, provide the solution. Amaze them by taking the initiative and fixing their problems before they ask for a solution.


This has worked for me so far Cool
I just hope I don't get caught short one day. As generally I advise other IT bods on what to do in certain situations, so surely I should know more than them to be able to give out advice.
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 16 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried asking your employer?
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 16 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paris2 wrote:


I'll take a look Thumbs Up Is the CCNA relevant for most situations, or is it very Cisco orientated?


The commands are, but all networking kit works within a set of very defined standards, which are documented within the IETF RFCs, or via the IEEE 802 and 803 standards. If you can get manufacturer As kit to work, you'll probably be able to get manufacturer Bs kit to work as well


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el_oso wrote:

I just do it, provide the solution. Amaze them by taking the initiative and fixing their problems before they ask for a solution.


This has worked for me so far Cool


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The difference between experience and not is how confident you sound in your own bullshit.

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PostPosted: 15:14 - 16 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

PhilDawson8270 wrote:
Have you tried asking your employer?


Indeed, my previous employer had Aruba kit, they seemed to want someone to manage it, said send me on a course, they did.

Next one had Cisco kit, same again... offered a course.

I'll see if I have my old learning stuff, if so I'll post it down to you.
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 16 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
PhilDawson8270 wrote:
Have you tried asking your employer?


Indeed, my previous employer had Aruba kit, they seemed to want someone to manage it, said send me on a course, they did.

Next one had Cisco kit, same again... offered a course.

I'll see if I have my old learning stuff, if so I'll post it down to you.


I will be asking my employer yes, but would like to go to them with a couple of options rather than just asking the question. In my experience it will more likely happen if you do the legwork yourself and just ask for final sign off.

And Paddy you are a legend Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 16 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, do not acquire a whole pile of crappy old kit to play with, you can now build any network topology you require to test with inside of a virtual environment, using either GNS3, Cisco Cloud Services Router if you work in an environment utilising IOS XE, or boot versions of the Nexus 1000v to use NX-OS
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 16 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the back of that, just seen req's for large(ish) lab setup.

To build your virtual ccie rack you will need:

1 x server or high power desktop with at least 16GB ram for 10 routers and 32GB ram for 20 routers
1 x Cisco CSR1000v
1 x VMWare ESXi 5.1

Snap dawg, I only have 8GB RAM Laughing

I'm gonna dig through the rents loft to find CCNA stuff when I get some time. Some is a little outdated, fair bit of IOS stuff in there, notes n all, sure I have a disk somewhere with example test stuff too.. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 16 Sep 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a lot easier than the old CCIE lab which was 6 2800 series routers, 4 3560 switches, a frame relay switch and a few misc bits and bobs. About 3 or 4 grand if you hunted on ebay for old stuff, vs a couple of hundred quid for ram now.

I suspect that with 20 routers a few more real world WAN designs can be created, rather than just running all the features you could possible manage on a couple of routers because exam

On a side note, the CSR looks really interesting. I'm hoping that it can mean I can ditch a load of expensive tin cluttering up computer rooms in the next couple of years.

The last 12 months has seen the first time there has been less hardware and wires in a computer room compared to the year before, following years and years of bigger and bigger piles of networking crap all spinning and using power
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