how to ride like police...or not

[Val]

How to ride like police rider... if you want to be a dick and do not value your life or the others at all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmYh1FWYtUA#t=59

I have seen so many wrong positions there it is unbelievable, for example on right turn at 1:01 going in the wrong lane to the right and almost crashing in a car 2 seconds later.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2CwN2RKDHwg/VBnGpx8MbXI/AAAAAAAAAs8/BBOePEYOd94/w342-h460-no/policeride.png
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[Val]

[Mark_F]

[Scootaloo]

Blah

He crossed the line "holy sh*t" big fucking deal.

I'm not the most fond of police but to be honest, it sounds like someone is a bit p1ssed with them for something.
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[arry]

[Rogerborg]

Apropriately...



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[TallPaul_S]

Pretty obvious they're over the middle of the road at 1:00 to get better visibility for the upcoming LEFT hand bend at 1:05.
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[arry]

[matto]

I agree with the OP. At 1:01 the rider is way too close to the oncoming vehicle that is naturally going to get near the centre line of the road while taking a right hand bend.

As other people have said it's fair enough to position for a better view of the road ahead but you must always sacrifice that position for safety, which he didn't. I guess he feels invincible on his liveried bike.

[matto]

Actually watching the video further on it shows the footage from the rear bikers camera. Why the rear guy didn't position the same as they guy in front I'll never know and he continues to position terribly for the entire left hand bend despite his mate in front doing just fine

[Rogerborg]

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[Val]

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[kramdra]

bleh they make shit progress yet ride too close together for the conditions.

At 13minutes a lorry is passing another lorry with a car about to cross two lanes. IMO a significant hazard that did not get any action or a mention.

[caferacer]

I've watched many of these videos and tried using a bit of it in my own riding.

There is so much thinking involved and awareness it just seems safer to ride in my lane within my own capabilities. I cant see how this can really make riding safer than that?

As you say they are not even making significant progress!

Unless I'm gunning it, any move over the white line gets a life-saver.

There are so few life-savers in this vid, an inpatient car could easily have taken them out! It's only because they are police that they weren't being overtaken.
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[Rogerborg]

[Conzar]

Sounds like everyone in here is Barry Sheene.
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[map]

Thing I got from the video was the riding line astern rather than echelon (offset). That is if bike in front emergency stops or crashes bike behind likely to crash into it. Also view ahead obstructed by bike in front.

Second point is if you look at the video using the 1000, 2000 count method I believe there's way less that a 2 second gap between the bikes. Wet, damp roads, slippery conditions should be widened to 4 ish seconds if following the rules.

However, as said by Rogerborg, these riding Gods have obviously transcended what us mere mortals can achieve (making a video obviously makes you Captain Scarlet, that is, indestructable).

As stinkwheel said can be really right over the other side. I recall being told on bikesafe all the way over to near the gutter was ok (with the usual if safe to do so caveats).

However, if over white line, even bits of the fairing or hand and you have an accident with oncoming vehicle you will be found at fault. There was a case of this...I found the reference here - Scott v Symons.

My lad on his 125 got stopped by a police car following him. On an empty road he'd gone onto the wrong side on a bend as described. Police gave him an earbashing but no other action. I have informed him if happens again to tell the nice policeman to go read motorcycle roadcraft.
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[stevo as b4]

I don't think they are doing anything wrong really!
Many bikers don't move at all from the centre of their lane to improve visibility around bends or for junctions to put themselves further from the hazard.

As for crossing the centre line to get a better view or straighten out 2 or more bends, then don't we all do this both in cars and on bikes?

Rather the way they ride and using all of even a wide road to overtake, than the idiots who squeeze past cars or between lanes of traffic on main roads, just because the gap between the cars is about enough to fit a bike through.

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