First bike - help me choose the right Varadero

[Loruss]

So I'm fairly tall 6' 3" and after reading through forums and looking at bikes on https://cycle-ergo.com/ it seems like the Honda Varadero is going to be the best choice for me.

Having said that I can't decide if I should spend an extra 800 pounds or so and get one that is 2007 6k miles or a cheaper one that is 2006 and about 20k miles.

What do you guys think is it worth spending the extra money for a newer bike with lower mileage ? Also, as far as I know the 2007 varadero and onwards are fuel injected, does it make much of a difference ?

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[andyscooter]

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[Wonko The Sane]

I had an 06 as my first bike

Carbs just means there's a choke to help get it going on a colder morning, most of the time a quick squeeze of the throttle, let go and press the button would start her only needing the choke in thermal knickers weather

the trick is to get one that's been looked after, 125's often change hands quickly and get damaged often as the riders are inexperienced and have them until they complete their tests and move on to a larger bike (as I did)

They're a great bike, go with condition over millage, especially if the high millage bike has a load of paperwork / service reccord to show it's been looked after.
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[Loruss]

Ok so there is these two bikes

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201409187502134/sort/recpriceascdefault/cc-to/125cc/model/xl/make/honda/usedbikes/postcode/b296nu/radius/1500/page/1?logcode=p

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-Honda-XL125-Varadero-Just-6-345-miles-Every-MOT-FSH-excellent-condition-/281440488961?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4187290e01

First one being almost half the price of the second one, however the second one has full service history and a ton of paper work (just seems looked after). Which one would you buy, I mean the price difference is massive. Don't know if it's really worth spending all that extra money just because it has the paperwork.

[HotdogMcDraw]

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[Loruss]

Lol, I don't understand why it's so big, I mean, shouldn't it resize automatically.

[MCW]

My first bike was a Varadero and I loved it. It was a 52 plate and I never had a mechanical problem with it.

I wouldn't spend any more money than I had to on my first bike. I may have been more inept than your average learner, but I dropped the bike on several occasions before I got my confidence. If I had a shiny bike that had cost a fortune it would have added to my woes.

So, I'd go for the cheaper one and get a more expensive one when I was more confident.

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[Loruss]

Well since this is my first bike (haven't even done my CBT yet - waiting on my provisional license, should be any day now <fingerscrossed>) it's hard to tell how long I will want to keep it, but at least 6 months I reckon. I should definitely be able to do most of servicing and repairing my self. I'm planning on taking my biker friend with me when I go and have a look at it but is there anything in particular that I should look out for, don't really know what makes a bike "in good condition" - this has probably been asked before so gonna have a look around.

[SQL]

dat avatar

[Aff]

I want to be mad at your avatar, but its too damn cute.
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[Taught2BCauti...]

The first bike looks like it has had a hard life and has been dropped a few times, while the second one looks like it has been cared for. Price seems OK for both, and you will probably not lose anything when you re-sell.

The injection models hold their values well and are easier to DIY service.
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[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

Personally I wouldn't be interested in the first. But then, the second one seems too dear.

Having said that, if you did buy the second, and assuming you didn't absolutely pile mile after mile on it, and that you maintained it well (and perhaps even improved its cosmetic side), you probably wouldn't lose much if anything on it.

Then again - again - I do baulk at paying anything over a grand for a 125 that's not pretty much mint in every detail. And that baulk becomes an about turn if figures start nudging two grand!
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[GeorgeB.]

Don't think you have to go for the verydearo just cause yer tall - At 6ft 3" I found my CBF quite comfy. Don't rule out other, cheaper bikes.

That being said, the vara is probably the most reliable 125 you can get. BodyGuard's survived all the abuse he's given his and it still ran until he used it as a wrecking ball.
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[MCW]

I bought mine for 995 squids, put 2 years, lots of miles, several humiliating drops and a £16.00 battery on it and sold it for £1300.00.

They keep their value.

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One think to check on both would be cost of insurance.
I got a Varadero for my lad as he has damaged knees from playing rugby and is quite tall. However, the cost of the insurance was high. More than the Hyosung Comet GT125 (which considering Honda vs Korean Hyosung, parts availability, reliability, etc) was an eye opener.

Also worth checking if cheaper one is insurance category write-off. I think you need the reg no. but trick posted on here where you create AutoTrader sale page for bike and it tells you when you enter a price. HPI check will tell you also but cost money. Worth asking question of both "is it HPI clear?". Accept only Yes or No answers.

So as posted above, don't limit yourself to Hobson's choice too early.

That said, get the best you can afford appears a good motto for life in general. TBH, I would be happy with either, happier paying less.
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[Loruss]

Yeah, I'm doing my CBT tomorrow (super excited !!) and I'll be doing it on a CBF so I'll get a chance to try it out and see if it's good enough.

I've checked the insurance and it was really close on both the Varadero and CBF both around 470£ so not really a factor in my decision.

Never had anyone suggest a Hyosung didn't even know they existed
I've found this one https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201409127347978/sort/recpriceascdefault/cc-to/125cc/make/hyosung/usedbikes/radius/1500/postcode/b296nu/page/1?logcode=p

and the guy says it's a big 125, however it doesn't seem to be on https://cycle-ergo.com/ so have no way of comparing it to the Varadero

[TallPaul_S]

Have you actually checked to see if either of the bikes hare still available?

The first one, at 18k miles, even though it has a few marks, is severely underpriced, I wouldn't be surpised if it's been sold 10 times over already.

The second one is a good price, in fact a very good price - must be the onset of winter than is pushing down prices.
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