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 notbike World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 23:00 - 21 Sep 2014 Post subject: Aftermarket stuff & Warranty |
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So on my Ninja I have 24 months warranty in case something goes wrong with it, apparently. I don't exactly know what this means because the booklet doesn't explain the perks of warranty properly, it only really explains conditions where it would become void.
One of those conditions was, in short; "if you fit anything aftermarket to the bike, your warranty is void"
Problem is that I've ordered some aftermarket stuff for the bike already and don't intend on keeping it in a box.
So 2 questions.
#1 Is warranty important or should I just not care?
#2 can I just put all the stock stuff back on the bike when service time comes around and they'd be none the wiser?
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| Pol Anorl |
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Might aswell just leave it standard rather than running the risk, 9 times out of 10 they will find any way to worm out of paying out. ____________________ GOOD GAME BODYGUARD: https://i.imgur.com/8WePGgf.jpg
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I had a two year warranty on my R125, which has just expired.
I always used the Yamaha dealer back on the IoM, mainly for the sake of the warranty but, also as they were only two streets away from home, I also got to know then quite well and could trust them and they helped me out quite a bit and always did me good deals when buying gear. They were a small business and their labour costs were relatively reasonable (£45 p/h as opposed to the £70 p/h the local yamaha dealer around here charges, which is why he doesn't get my business btw).
I've used the warranty on a few occasions for various things and have never had an issue with any claim being denied or even argued about. Admittedly, it's not been for anything major, just the overheating/airlock problems I was having, a new radiator cap and a new plastic tank cover, as the original one stated to crack around the petrol cap.
The only after market parts I have are bar ends, chain and sprockets, plus an R&G tail tidy. All of which have never been questioned.
Personally, I'd go ahead and fit the parts you have bought and unless you are doing anything major that could possibly cause harm to the bike, I wouldn't be concerned about the warranty being affected but, I can only go by my own experiences, other peoples may differ. ____________________ There ain't no devil, there's just god when he's drunk.
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 Posted: 07:45 - 22 Sep 2014 Post subject: Re: Aftermarket stuff & Warranty |
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| Meef wrote: | One of those conditions was, in short; "if you fit anything aftermarket to the bike, your warranty is void" |
What is it in "long"? And is it reasonable?
I can't find their standard warranty, but I'm just lolling at their extended warranty. Needs Kawasaki servicing.
| Kwak UK wrote: | If, within the extended warranty period, a failure occurs which is determined by Kawasaki to be caused by a manufacturing defect, Kawasaki will, at its discretion, arrange for the repair or replacement of the necessary parts at no cost to the customer. |
So, two years standard plus two years extended. Pity that SOGA 1979 allows 6 years (5 in Scootchland) to raise a manufacturing defect claim...
Anyway, what are we talking about here? Fitting heated grips or a double bubble screen won't cause the engine to run lean and your piston to hole. Fitting a Go-Louda exhaust might.
But sure, chuck the originals back on in the event of a warranty issue. Why wouldn't you? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I'd take it to local dealer after putting the aftermarket stuff on in the event of a warranty part failiure.
If they refuse to honour warranty, ask how stuff is related to the Kawasaki part failing. I.e how does a double bubble screen make a wheel bearing collapse?
I know we've honoured warranty on bikes with aftermarket bits before now, I'd like to think most dealers would help you out where possible  ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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If you paid for the warranty, the only value it has is to teach you a lesson about interpreting smallprint.
In the event of something major failing, you would have to prove that the defect was present when it left the factory, and that the manufacturer was aware of it, or at least admits that it was their fault. ____________________ Honda Varadero XL125(V8)
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As said, fitting aftermarket parts won't necessarily, in itself, prevent you from making a realistic claim on the warranty, even though the small print may say so. Warranty claims are submitted through a dealer. If you know them well and have a friendly relationship with them, they are likely to want to get any claims through (as long, of course, as you haven't done something that obviously contributed to a failure). They want you to come back time and again because they want your business. If they piss you off by immediately turning down a claim that (may) cost them little to deal with (in reality, the labour they are given on warranty work by the manufacturers doesn't realistically cover their costs), then they lose a customer. If the dealer says to the manufacturer, "no, there were no contributing factors from aftermarket parts to this failure", and it doesn't sound likely that there were, the claim will likely go through ok.
| Taught2BCautious wrote: | In the event of something major failing, you would have to prove that the defect was present when it left the factory, and that the manufacturer was aware of it, or at least admits that it was their fault. |
No. It will not be up to you, the owner, to prove that a defect was present when the bike left the factory. The dealer will make an assessment, and if, in their view, it was a manufacturing defect, they will put the claim through. If you obviously buggered something up that caused the failure, then they won't.
If the manufacturer think that the dealer is wrong, they will over-ride the claim, and then you may need to prove it was a manufacturing defect, but in reality, aside from those taking the piss, I think this scenario is quite rare.
Also, most dealers sell a range of aftermarket accessories that aren't necessarily recommended or endorsed by the manufacturers. They wouldn't do this if they thought those parts were going to cause problems with the bike. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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 Posted: 18:37 - 24 Sep 2014 Post subject: Re: Aftermarket stuff & Warranty |
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| Rogerborg wrote: | | Meef wrote: | One of those conditions was, in short; "if you fit anything aftermarket to the bike, your warranty is void" |
What is it in "long"? And is it reasonable?
I can't find their standard warranty, but I'm just lolling at their extended warranty. Needs Kawasaki servicing.
| Kwak UK wrote: | If, within the extended warranty period, a failure occurs which is determined by Kawasaki to be caused by a manufacturing defect, Kawasaki will, at its discretion, arrange for the repair or replacement of the necessary parts at no cost to the customer. |
So, two years standard plus two years extended. Pity that SOGA 1979 allows 6 years (5 in Scootchland) to raise a manufacturing defect claim...
Anyway, what are we talking about here? Fitting heated grips or a double bubble screen won't cause the engine to run lean and your piston to hole. Fitting a Go-Louda exhaust might.
But sure, chuck the originals back on in the event of a warranty issue. Why wouldn't you? |
When I purchased my bike new, I drove it out of the showroom on a scorpion exhaust. Didnt like the OE one. Do you think this would affect warranty? After all its an exhaust purchased at, and fitted by an authorized suzuki dealer.
Contrary to my question I did get a neutral light fixed under warranty but I dont think something this small is even worth the effort of arguing over. What about something major? ____________________ I am usually naked when posting to this forum. |
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