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 Posted: 11:27 - 23 Sep 2014  Post subject: High Mileage ZZR1100 |
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I'm buying my mates ZZR of him. He's had it from new and the bike has a full service history. He had replaced/uprated the shock and fork internals.The bike goes well and is reliable, my mate rode it to Germany last year no problem. It's a wee bit rough around the edges and it hs done 96k
96000 miles. Various ZZR folk have said that as long as you keep on top of the oil changes and the shims there's not mutch to worry about.
What's folks thought/experiences with these bikes?
It's a ZZR1100 D 1993
I know it'll eat chain and sprokets and brake pads. What tyre life should I expect? 'Busa like 1200 miles to a rear? I'll be riding it relatively sensibly with just the occasional baws oot ride.
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It's got reciepts that look like Lord of The Rings, but I'm getting it so cheap that i won't really be able to haggle at all.
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Posted: 12:40 - 23 Sep 2014  Post subject: Re: High Mileage ZZR1100 |
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| yodagoat wrote: |
96000 miles. Various ZZR folk have said that as long as you keep on top of the oil changes and the shims there's not mutch to worry about. |
That's about right. Valve clearances tend to tighten. Check them once a year.
Once you get the airbox out of the way, they are quite easy to do. No need to
remove cams and no special tools required. The recommended oil change
interval is 6,000 miles. I change mine every 3,000.
| Quote: | What's folks thought/experiences with these bikes?
It's a ZZR1100 D 1993
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That will be a D1, the first in the D series. They are good solid
machines and there were very few changes made in the later
models.
Fast and heavy means they are hard on front fork seals.
Original downpipes and collector will be rotten by now.
Problems with the alternator chain tensioner can cause
serious damage to the clutch and crankcase.
Standard Tokico front calipers need care and attention
to keep them working well.
If you are lucky, the rad and oil-cooler are still in good shape.
| Quote: | I know it'll eat chain and sprokets and brake pads. |
Not necessarily. I've put 10,000 miles on the C&S and I don't
know how much mileage was on them when I bought the bike.
| Quote: | What tyre life should I expect? 'Busa like 1200 miles to a rear? I'll be riding it relatively sensibly with just the occasional baws oot ride. |
High speed running with luggage and a pillion will be hard on
the rear tyre. For solo riding at 'sensible speeds, you can expect
to get fairly good mileage from sport-touring tyres. My Metzeler Z8
tyres are not looking too bad at 5,500 miles. The rear is a bit squared
off after a trip to Scotland during the hot weather this summer.
My mate has more than 5,000 miles on a pair of Pirelli Angels and
they look like they could easily reach 10.000.
Obviously, if you fit sports tyres and ride hard, you could wear
out a set every week.
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Thanks guys. It'll be used for knocking about the doors, letting me keep my GS for holidays and stuff. Looking forwards to getting it.
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Confusion, can you recommend a manual to keep me right when doing the shims? haynes book of lies?
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I had a C1 with 85k miles on it. Loads of stuff was worn out but it still went well and was reliable. Rear swingarm has handy grease nipples to keep the bearings in good shape.
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| Confusion wrote: | | yodagoat wrote: | Confusion, can you recommend a manual to keep me right when doing the shims? haynes book of lies? |
The Kawasaki manual is readily available as a PDF. Haynes didn't
do a manual specifically for the ZZR1100. There is one for the big
Kawasaki fours which covered several models including the ZZR.
The factory manual does the job for me. The guys on ZZR forums
like zzr-international are knowledgeable and helpful.
Search for:
ZX11_Service_93_01.pdf |
I've got a '94 D2. Warning: Teflonesque post 
This one is more than adequate, has everything in it and not too many mistakes!
For valve clearances it is a bit of a palaver to remove the rocker cover. Follow the Haynes advise but also remove the coil mounts and un-hook the choke from the mount on the engine (no need to remove the nipple from it's housing). I've found the best way to remove the cylinder head cover is to lift it out from the cam-chain side pushing the other side towards the front of the bike. Pull the throttle cables towards you and rotate the one with the angled head towards you (you'll be working on the left - nearest the kerb - when removing the cover). Be sure to clean up all the residue holding the gaskets in place and carefully apply blue hylomar to all gasket faces, not forgetting the cover bolts!
Otherwise it's quite a straightforward task to do.
Tip: Buy a trade box of shims, these have three sizes of the full range of standard shims - may seem excessive but it saves getting raped on buying individual OEM shims!!!
With regards tyre mileage, very much depends how you ride!!!
I've had anything from 3000 on Michelin Power Pilot 2CT's to 4500 on Supermaxx Diamonds. The Michelin Pilot Road 2/3 combo that I'm riding at the moment seems to be lasting well and gives outstanding performance.
Chain and sprockets will last longer if you replace the cush drive (if it isn't new), if you're a tight wad pack the rubbers with old credit cards or inner tube to take up slack.
Fork oil seals do need keeping an eye on, as do linkage bearings, steering head and any other part of the running gear - these are heavy, powerful machines that don't take kindly to neglect.
I'm running on Tokico 6 pots (bit of a marmite subject amongst bikers!) but have found them to perform excellently IF you keep them clean.
Oil changes between 3000 and 4000miles, I use Silkolene Ride 10/40, others use full esters, either way I'd recommend not skimping on oil and buying a recognised motorcycle brand (personal opinion only!)
A lot of zed owners recommend checking the carbs every 500 miles,  , as the adjusters tend to move.
Mine drinks about 1litre of oil every 1000 miles which apparently is not unusual and like most Kwaks it may sound rough idling to riders used to other Japanese marques (As if the label on the frame weren't warning enough - 'Kawasaki Heavy Industries'!!)
MPG on mine varies from 18-54, depends on my mood (and finances) 
Another tip: If it's not been done already. Find some carb tops off a ZXR750, the early D models were all restricted for much of the European market. Restricted ones have a slope on the top that stop the throttle body from reaching it's optimal point, flat topped means it's already been done - replacement can unleash an extra 40BHP in some cases. 
TLDR: Can be heavy on the maintenance side but is the most fun you can have outside the bedroom! (Flipside being that you can lose your licence in first gear) 
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Go or it mate, worst comes to the worst a spare engine wouldn't be too hard to sort 
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Thanks again guys. The bike is allready derestricted. It has maxton fork internals and a WP rear shock. The calipers were swapped for the blue R1 yamaha calipers on modified mounts with a modified master cylinder.
The bike is mine now, but I can't get it till April. It's in Germany so I'll get a cheap flight over and ride it back.
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Sounds like it's already got the basic mods done. I ride a C model ZZR, love it to bits. Bit less refined than the D but I prefer it that way
96k isn't really serious mileage so long as the oil and shims have been kept on top of 
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