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 Posted: 18:39 - 30 Sep 2014  Post subject: A2 bike for a clumsy bellend? |
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Evening BCF.
I'm sick of my YBR and I'm going to go back and resit my mod 1 on an A2 bike and try to pass my mod 2 as well. I want a faster bike, just not a particularly bigger bike. I'm clumsy as fuck (I'm dyspraxic) so I don't want a huge tank of a thing. I got on my brother's GPZ500, tried to rock it off the centre stand and immediately dropped it  He wasn't best pleased, I can assure you.
I'm 6ft and 17 and a bit stone (although losing it slowly) so a tiny bike is a bit of a problem. I look like a monkey fucking a rugby ball as it is when I'm riding my YBR. Any ideas on bikes to try? being able to sit at 80 on the motorway is fine enough for me. I'm not into hugely powerful sports bikes, and to be honest if I had the choice of a free bike I'd go for a sports tourer rather than a full on sports bike. Doesn't even have to be right at the 92HP limit to be honest.
I don't really want brand new for cost reasons but no older than 2007 or so, and a maximum of 3k or so. Wouldn't turn down a decent 0% finance deal on a new one but my credit isn't brilliant (probably average-ish) so used is preferred.
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*Treads on eggshells*..
Is biking really cut out for you with that condition?  . |
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92 limit? Doesn't matter as you'll be restricting it to 46bhp, unless you mean for afterwards (doing your full cat A).
If there's a high chance of dropping it, maybe get something the world won't really miss, like an SV  The half fairing will help on motorways, and they're currently 4k new so if you did want to buy one on finance there's that option.
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| Posted: 19:19 - 30 Sep 2014 Post subject: Re: A2 bike for a clumsy bellend? |
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Ugh, the dyspraxia card. My brother has this, it's not really affected him much in life. My best mate through secondary school also had it, and he managed just fine.
If it is genuinely that bad that it is worth mentioning then you shouldn't be on the road in the first place. You likely dropped the GPZ because you were on it whilst trying to take it off the center stand & probably weren't holding the brake in either.
By the sounds of things you probably ought to get a 700 quid er-5 till you learn how not to drop a big bike every time you move it as dropping a 3k machine on a regular basis is going to get very expensive very quickly.
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Hey,
I'm dyspraxic myself (statement says I shouldn't be able to cycle, skate or surf - ah well, found out after starting my hobbies)
Did my CBT on an old Honda CG and got a varadero as my first bike.
had that for a couple of months before doing my tests on it.
had it a couple more months before getting a ZZR600 which is quite a heavy thing, I only ever put it on and off the centre stand when stood next to it, and I usually have the side stand down to catch it if I'm dropping it.
You need to gradually get used to the bigger bike
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| Pins wrote: | *Treads on eggshells*..
Is biking really cut out for you with that condition? . |
Aye. No need to tread on eggshells, I can see why you might think that. I have no issue once I'm moving (hence why none of us fall over at more than 5mph, unless we hit something) but it's moving the bike around that I have a problem with and moving off, to a point. I also have quite short legs for my height so anything I can flat-foot is a bonus.
I've mentioned on here before that I know I'll never been no Rossi, but that's not why I ride. I just like to be on 2 wheels  I don't even need to go that fast really. Hence not needing a bike that's right at the limit. I passed mod 1 first time with no lessons as well so I can't be *that* bad either. Failed mod 2, but we'll look past that
Not only that if some people have crashes so bad they lose limbs and then get back on with modded controls I have no excuse do I?
| Wednesday Biker wrote: | FZ6 maybe? |
Looks quite nice - I don't want a naked bike particularly so this could be a good choice. I might go and have a sit on one.
| MC wrote: | 92 limit? Doesn't matter as you'll be restricting it to 46bhp, unless you mean for afterwards (doing your full cat A).
If there's a high chance of dropping it, maybe get something the world won't really miss, like an SV The half fairing will help on motorways, and they're currently 4k new so if you did want to buy one on finance there's that option. |
Indeed, although I do plan on doing my A at 24 (22 now on a CBT, so I'm gonna get raped in the new safer (!) licencing system due to my age).
4k new is really good actually, even if they aren't particularly nice to look at (IMO). Saw one before at Millennium in St. Helens for those who are local.
| _Iain_ wrote: | Ugh, the dyspraxia card. My brother has this, it's not really affected him much in life. My best mate through secondary school also had it, and he managed just fine.
If it is genuinely that bad that it is worth mentioning then you shouldn't be on the road in the first place. You likely dropped the GPZ because you were on it whilst trying to take it off the center stand & probably weren't holding the brake in either.
By the sounds of things you probably ought to get a 700 quid er-5 till you learn how not to drop a big bike every time you move it as dropping a 3k machine on a regular basis is going to get very expensive very quickly.
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It's affected me quite a lot - school sucked arse because of it. Teachers hated me
It's not so bad I'm dangerous (hence I would presume my CBT instructor or my ex po-po examiner would have mentioned it, he bitched about everything else I did wrong), I'm just average. I can corner without wobbling, and yeah, it probably does take time for me to get used to stuff. But I'm not dangerous. I wouldn't ride if I thought I was, I don't fancy being deaded at 22.
I'll look at a shitter and see if I can find a good one anyway. You're probably right about it getting expensive.
| -.. wrote: | Hey,
I'm dyspraxic myself (statement says I shouldn't be able to cycle, skate or surf - ah well, found out after starting my hobbies)
Did my CBT on an old Honda CG and got a varadero as my first bike.
had that for a couple of months before doing my tests on it.
had it a couple more months before getting a ZZR600 which is quite a heavy thing, I only ever put it on and off the centre stand when stood next to it, and I usually have the side stand down to catch it if I'm dropping it.
You need to gradually get used to the bigger bike |
Yeah, I'm not supposed to be able to tie my own shoes or wall through doors without walking into the frame either
I'll do my A2 and see how I get on with it. I'm not looking to buy right now but certainly after Xmas and towards summer I want to be off the YBR. It's a shitter of the highest proportions. |
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| Posted: 21:26 - 30 Sep 2014 Post subject: Re: A2 bike for a clumsy bellend? |
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| sabian92 wrote: | I don't want a huge tank of a thing. I got on my brother's GPZ500, tried to rock it off the centre stand and immediately dropped it |
Umm, that's a fairly easy bike to handle.
Wait, did you straddle it, push it off the stand, and away it went?
If so, that's not clumsy, it's just daft. Stand beside it.
Here's the thing, you're going to have to get on with a 395cc+ (in practice a 480cc - 650cc) training school bike to get your A2, even if you really only want a 250.
If you can do that, then you'll be in a far better position to know what you can handle and what you want.
If you can't, well, you can't, there's no magic route to a bigger bike any more. Sorry.
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| Posted: 00:20 - 01 Oct 2014 Post subject: Re: A2 bike for a clumsy bellend? |
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| Rogerborg wrote: | | sabian92 wrote: | I don't want a huge tank of a thing. I got on my brother's GPZ500, tried to rock it off the centre stand and immediately dropped it |
Umm, that's a fairly easy bike to handle.
Wait, did you straddle it, push it off the stand, and away it went?
If so, that's not clumsy, it's just daft. Stand beside it.
Here's the thing, you're going to have to get on with a 395cc+ (in practice a 480cc - 650cc) training school bike to get your A2, even if you really only want a 250.
If you can do that, then you'll be in a far better position to know what you can handle and what you want.
If you can't, well, you can't, there's no magic route to a bigger bike any more. Sorry. |
In all fairness, I was on an incline and I didn't expect it to be that heavy. It was more stupidity that dropped it than anything else. I'd take a stab at the other stuff not helping, but that wasn't the reason why.
I suppose I should at least have a lesson on a GS500, see if I can ride it properly (which to be honest it shouldn't be an issue) and see where I go from there.
Just run some quotes as well. I pay 360 a year TPO on my YBR worth 900 quid. 4 year old XJ6 worth 3k on Autotrader? 500 quid a year, fully comp with a month old licence in a pretty shit post code. With lid/leathers cover, breakdown and some other bits and bobs thrown in.
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| Pins wrote: | Yeh, you crash alot from what I've seen. . |
Crashed, past tense, a few times. Dusted himself off, kept going, passed his A2 despite being coached by Teffers.
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KLR650 or some supermoto? Not 'big' but tall, handles drops well, customisable for your own needs etc..
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| talkToTheHat wrote: | Get an XV or sportster or other small cruisers thing with no centre stand?
Getting bikes of centre stands and other bits of manual handling is hard and takes practice. I have ME which is admittely a different issue but made manual handing a bitch if i wasnt fresh and the bastards at my training school made me ride the bike with only a centre stand so I'd get the knack of getting it on and off of such safely rather than using brute force and ignorance. |
Bleh, I hate cruisers. I bat for both teams and even I think you need to a raving homo to ride one
| Doovy wrote: | Don't put labels on yourself. Sorted |
I don't. But it is a fact I have something that causes issues with balance. I didn't say in my OP "I want to ride a bigger bike but I can't because of XYZ", I said "I want to ride, give me smaller bikes that would be easier than a bus to move around".
| MarJay wrote: | I wonder how people survived before these conditions were identified. Oh yeah I know, they just got on with it.
I have hereditary multiple exostoses which is a hereditary bone disorder where none of my joints have grown correctly. I have one leg shorter than another, one arm shorter than another and my left wrist joint is so malformed that the ulna bone does not connect to the wrist joint at all. I have very short legs (not least because of this disorder) and I find it hard to ride bikes that are on the tall side. I generally don't complain and just get on and ride. It's never really been an issue for me. People only find issues with medical disorders if they make it an issue, assuming they can get through most of day to day life the same way as the majority of people. I'm sure Dyspraxia falls into that camp. As Doovy says, don't label yourself and you might find that you aren't as limited as you thought you were. |
As I said, I don't label myself. I don't use it as an excuse for shit I don't want to or don't think I can do. I just don't fancy putting a lot of money into a bike that I might not either like nor be able to move it without shitting myself each time I'm gonna drop it and do a lot of damage.
Like I said, if I used it as an excuse I wouldn't be riding, at all. |
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| Posted: 13:33 - 01 Oct 2014 Post subject: Re: A2 bike for a clumsy bellend? |
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I've also got severe depression and Asperger's but you don't see me saying I can't go and talk to people because of those do you?
Yeah, I'm a dyspraxi-sperg. I don't see myself as "disabled" in the sense of there's nothing I can't do. I'm just shitter at some things than others are. Riding bikes is one of those things. I still like to ride them though. |
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| sabian92 wrote: | It's affected me quite a lot - school sucked arse because of it. Teachers hated me |
Have downsized the tale of my school life for you, as nobody else gives a shit about tales of baww.
Oh you had trouble at school? I went to a real shithole.
Teachers hated seeing me succeed. I got a dirty, dirty look when handed my yr9 sats result & told I diddn't deserve to get the mark I had done in science. The reality was I found the work too fucking simples so had self taught myself everything the higher group had been learning & outperformed around 75% of top set.
Why? Because I diddn't appreciate being looked at like a thickshit simply because I couldn't be arsed to do the tedious copy xy&z out of a book onto a bit of paper. Reading books and learning the theory behind stuff was far far more relevant to life in general & significantly more interesting. I'd fucked my 11+ by one mark, and somehow got lumped in bottom set for most of my subjects due to an admin cock up.
And then there was the repeated arse kickings, getting knives held to my throat, my shit stolen, getting locked in cupboards, set on fire, the list goes on. Getting jumped on the way home, head stamped on, pissed on. Good times were had by all. Being severly ashmatic diddn't really help with the whole running away bit, and nobody really gave a shit so I stopped reporting it after the first year of secondry school.
Then I got to 6th form and started having seizures, missed loads of school due to hospital appointments, blackouts, scans etc. Teachers were happy however to refuse to assist me in catching up on any of the work I'd missed, and I ended up getting kicked out of the computer class i'd really enjoyed & spent all of Yr10 & 11 getting the grades to get into. Ended up having to basicly write off yr1 of 6th form and only came out of that with a re-sit in english getting me up to a double award B. I then went to try and get back in for a 2nd year, get back on the IT course however they wouldn't have me as I was deemed lazy- despite the amount of meds they were pumping me full of to try and get me to stop having fits. Was sleeping 14-16hrs a day, told I couldn't have a driving licence (which was the one thing I always always wanted).
School was just fucking peachy
Now, with that said and done I cant ride a bike fast, and I've dropped bikes, and that absolutely none of this relates in any way to having various things wrong with me or how shit a time I had at school. Yeah I could put the lack of balance down to the side effects of my meds, but it's not. It's just stuff I need to work on, practice & perfect techniques that work for me.
I think you need to stop making excuses for yourself and just get on with it, taking reasonable measures where absolutely needed. I know I go gommo when I've just got up & get target point fixation...hence I don't get on a bike unless I've been up for half hour. This guy seems to be doing just fine & he's a fucksight worse off than most on here;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNn7LLO1_mI
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