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qarka
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Tyre fitting in Cumbria, can't take your own tyres? Reply with quote

My new tyres arrived today, got the wheels off and rang up the closest garage only to be told they can only fit tyres that they have sold due to insurance reasons. They told me this is the case with most places nowadays. Confused

I rang around a few more and got the same answer.

Anyone in the area know a place where I can just take my wheels and new tyres and get them to swap them over? Never had this problem before. Also why would their insurance prevent it?
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds more like cartel behaviour tbh. If they all agree not to fit then they can charge more.

It's balls tbh, as my numerous bikes (last 5 months) all got new tyres on them. At the local car tyre place.

They said I had to remove the discs and they were also not responsible scratches on the rims though.

£10, silly sod put them all on backwards and had to do it again.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Change em yourself
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rather than an actual tyre shop try a dealer or independent.

I know my local Vauxhall dealer will slap any old tyre on for a few quid but i do know a mate of a mate.

Ask your facebook friends as someone always know someone.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

SQL wrote:
Change em yourself

Depends on the size but can be hard work.
Also without some kit balancing is impossible difficult.

As it's something that I don't do regularly I'd prefer it was handled by someone who does with some expertise and experience. It's not like correctly fitted tyres are important on a motorcycle Wink
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried changing a tyre on my 125, never again.

Changing bicycle tyres is hard enough.
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably a better tactic would be to find a place that fits part worns.
Surely they wont be able to fob you off with the insurance crap.
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

qarka wrote:
I tried changing a tyre on my 125, never again.

Changing bicycle tyres is hard enough.


If changing tyres is hard then you're doing it wrong.

If you were nearer me I'd fit them.
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must be. Fancy letting me know the correct method? I'm sure I've got some levers somewhere.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Re: Tyre fitting in Cumbria, can't take your own tyres? Reply with quote

qarka wrote:
My new tyres arrived today, got the wheels off and rang up the closest garage only to be told they can only fit tyres that they have sold due to insurance reasons. They told me this is the case with most places nowadays. Confused

I rang around a few more and got the same answer.

Anyone in the area know a place where I can just take my wheels and new tyres and get them to swap them over? Never had this problem before. Also why would their insurance prevent it?


Have you tried Chris at Cockermouth motorcycles?

Admittedly I usually just get him to supply them too but he's taken part-worn tyres on and off rims for me before for a fee (fiver I think).

I generally think it's a bit cheeky buying your own tyres then taking them to someone who sells tyres to fit. Strikes me as a bit like taking your own steak to a resteraunt and asking the chef to cook it. They maybe just came up with the insurance speil because being directly told "fuck-off unless you bought them off us." often compromises repeat business and is undoubtedly what they were thinking.

You should ask Chris for a price anyway, he's always been close enough the the web price for me it wasn't worth the hassle getting them elsewhere and will usually fit me in if I can get five minutes off work to drop in the loose wheel.

Or you could just get them to remove your old ones. Fitting new tyres is usually easy enough. Be aware you'll have to take the old ones to the tip at Glasson to get rid of them though. The shop won't dispose of them unless you bought the new ones off them and if you put them in the wheelie bin, the binmen will leave it on top
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

qarka wrote:
Must be. Fancy letting me know the correct method? I'm sure I've got some levers somewhere.


There are plenty of youtube videos.

3 levers, 3 rim protectors, a bit of timber and some tesco value shampoo to get tyres on and off.

I made a tyre balancer using a bit of scrap box section/angle steel and some skateboard bearings. Two parts, bolt to the top of my axle stands. Will post pics later.


Total cost was about £15, I have used it to do around 6 tyres so far.


stinkwheel wrote:
if you put them in the wheelie bin, the binmen will leave it on top


Only if you are poverty enough not to use bin bags, binmen don't tend to go through sealed bags.

That said, my local council run tip takes tyres.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of places do this now.

Many garages will not fit customer supplied parts as in the event of failure they can be held accountable for it.

Some will fit customer parts only on signing a disclaimer that waives and and all responsibility for the work carried out.

Think it comes from people buying cheap, poor quality e-bay parts, taking them to be fitted and then claiming bad workmanship when they fail after a week, even though it is a Chinese knock off chain or shock or tyre that has fallen to bits.

Understandable really.

Same as wedding venues charge you an extortionate price for corkage on wine if you supply your own, it makes up for the profit they lose by selling their own.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

qarka wrote:
Must be. Fancy letting me know the correct method? I'm sure I've got some levers somewhere.



It depends if it is tubed or tubeless.

On the XT600 it was deflate the tube as much as you can.

Undo the tyre grippers.

Then put the wheel on the floor, then jump up and down on the edge to break the bead, do it on both sides.

Pop a tyre lever in facing your crotch. Hold the opposite side to the lever, push the lever to the hub. Pop the other one in about 1/6 of a tyre away. Do the same.

You can now either lever it all the way round or stick it on the ground and yank the rest of the tyre off making you fall onto the ground.
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I went to my nearest bike shop, for my MOT, I asked about them suppliyng and fitting a new front tyre.
The guy told me to buy it elsewhere and bring it in for fitting, because it would be cheaper for me, it was.
Obviously good business for him because I will go back again, you can't beat good customer care!
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fitted them myself. Thanks all. Thumbs Up Karma

It was much easier than I was expecting, luckily one of my mates popped round and helped me (he's a lot bigger than I am).

I took them to the local petrol station to try and seat the beads with the air machine, got the front one to seat but not the back. The guy I live with is gonna take it to work at M-sport tomorrow and do it with their compressor. He reckons he can give me a tour as well. Cool

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PostPosted: 18:20 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

qarka wrote:
Fitted them myself. Thanks all. Thumbs Up Karma

It was much easier than I was expecting, luckily one of my mates popped round and helped me (he's a lot bigger than I am).

I took them to the local petrol station to try and seat the beads with the air machine, got the front one to seat but not the back. The guy I live with is gonna take it to work at M-sport tomorrow and do it with their compressor. He reckons he can give me a tour as well. Cool

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A ratchet strap around the outside tread of the tyre will hold it on so the garage airline can pop it onto the rim.
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what about balancing it?... For sake of a few quid, I'd much rather save the hassle, and have tyres professionally fit and balanced by an outfit with the correct equipment.

My local motorcycle garage charges me £12 per loose wheel including disposal of the old tyre. Doesn't matter whether I bring my own (which I usually do), or buy the tyre from them.

Either way, it's £12 for 5-10 minutes work. Not bad for them, I'd say.

The only grumble I have had from them is when I ask to buy and/or fit a tyre with a profile different to the OEM tyre for the bike. Had to sign a waiver once before they would fit a 190/55 instead of a 190/50.
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats. It seems all my local garages don't allow you to bring your own tyres to have them fitted. Hence the thread.

As for balancing... Perhaps they'll be happy to balance my wheels for me if I take them with tyres fitted. Can't take longer than 5 mins.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My local tyre deal said this so I went to the other tyre dealer next door and he said "I'd rather have my lad earning £20 than sweeping the workshop again."

So I now do my best to buy from him too, even if it costs me a few more quid than online. He also accepts that sometimes he isn't as competitive as online but that people who buy online will still need them fitting!!

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PostPosted: 19:07 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess you're remote enough for them to maintain a cartel.

I'd be surprised if there were no-where in Carlisle or Penrith prepared to fit your own tyres.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

qarka wrote:
Changing bicycle tyres is hard enough.

Wut? You're doing it wrong.

Push bike tyres can be changed by hand without any tools.
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last tyres I put on my mountain bike needed soaking in hot water before I could get them on the rim. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My rear wheel has never been balanced since it was new. Not a single fuck given.

Single side swingarm so it doesn't fit on a conventional motorcycle wheel balancing machine.

You did put the heavy spot next to the valve?
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put a new front tyre on my Varadero on Sunday night, a time of my choosing rather than having to work around the shop opening hours and having to get the wheel or bike there and back. Bought my tyres when there was some offer for a pair on and they've been waiting ready for fitting since then.

It's a skill worth learning, I fell out with a fitter in Universal Tyres in Witham back in the 90s and swore to only do my own after that so I wouldn't have to put up with that sort of problem ever again. I'm still on the same bucket of tyre soap I bought 15 years ago despite mates filling up pots for themselves a few times.

I've only had tubeless tyres for a few years, but they seem to be easier to fit to me than tubed tyres, a compressor does help though.
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must be north Cumbria, Dan Stewart at Bridgegate M/c's in Barrow fitted a new tyre for me last week when i walked in carrying a tyre and wheel.
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