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 Kamikaze Bob Trackday Trickster
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 Posted: 14:32 - 31 Oct 2014 Post subject: First full week as a biker |
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After a few hiccups last week, I've ridden in and out of work every day this week. Had a few goes at filtering on the motorway, some back roads, and a few idiots who don't look out for bikes. Or do look out and purposely try to block me!
A few small things I've noticed in the past week on the VFR:
Filtering is tiring when doing it a lot - it took longer getting home last night on the motorway than my usual back road route, mostly due to almost constant bumper-to-bumper traffic. I took it easy but my arms and upper body were sore last night, although I may be tightening up a little as I'm not used to it yet
The slightly bent-over riding position isn't killing me as much as I thought (I have a very old back injury which I was expecting to kick in) but the base of my neck hurts after a while. Could that be due to the backpack I'm wearing?
The inner gloves I bought are already scrapped. Put them on yesterday on the way in as my fingers were almost numb earlier this week, [edit - numb from cold, not vibration or anything, should have said] they just caused me to lose feeling on the throttle. Couple that with more end-to-end traffic and loads of filtering and my right arm was stiff yesterday morning
Also, overall I feel more tired than usual from riding, but I expect that will be from more constant riding, rather than just lessons for a few hours every week or two.
One thing I do want to ask - how do most people handle riding in the pitch black on the back roads? I drove the A71 from Blackburn to Wishaw once a week after work all summer and loved it. Done it Wednesday night and got to my destination with slightly brown underwear! I kept the speed up but not being able to see the road in front of me was a bit daunting to say the least! Tried using the pass light to give me a snapshot of the road but is it alright to keep doing that?
Oh, and the Fi light was flickering last night on the way home. Some research and subsequent testing on the ride in this morning tells me the earth box is probably fecked, so that's my weekend sorted! The missus will have a fit when she finds out.... ____________________ 2001 Honda VFR800fi
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 Posted: 15:11 - 31 Oct 2014 Post subject: Re: First full week as a biker |
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| Kamikaze Bob wrote: | A few small things I've noticed in the past week on the VFR:
The slightly bent-over riding position isn't killing me as much as I thought (I have a very old back injury which I was expecting to kick in) but the base of my neck hurts after a while. Could that be due to the backpack I'm wearing? |
Most likely because of the weight of your helmet. Try a lighter one, if you can afford it. Or after a while, your neck muscles should adapt.
| Quote: | my fingers were almost numb earlier this week, they just caused me to lose feeling on the throttle. |
Do you have stock bar ends installed, or after market? What revs do you cruise at? I don't get enough vibes from my VFR at any of my cruising revs to get significant numbness, though I could potentially see it happening if I hung around just before VTEC kicked in.
| Quote: | One thing I do want to ask - how do most people handle riding in the pitch black on the back roads? |
Make sure your lights are properly directed at the road. The VFR has excellent stock headlights, better than I've experienced on any other bike without additional lights.
Other than that, because lights don't follow the bike around a corner, you need to take it easy going around them - you won't be able to see very far ahead. So don't go too fast unless it's very straight.
| Quote: | Tried using the pass light to give me a snapshot of the road but is it alright to keep doing that? |
If there's nobody in front of you, use your full brights. The VFR (at least VTEC version) uses 4 single filament H7 bulbs, so there should be no risk of overheating if using the pass light for extended periods either, but the dipped / full switch is generally less faff.
If it used H4, then the pass light is lighting up two filaments in a bulb that normally only has one or the other. My scooter is like that, extended use of the pass light will cause it to overheat after a while. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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 Posted: 16:49 - 31 Oct 2014 Post subject: Re: First full week as a biker |
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| Kamikaze Bob wrote: | After a few hiccups last week, I've ridden in and out of work every day this week. Had a few goes at filtering on the motorway, some back roads, and a few idiots who don't look out for bikes. Or do look out and purposely try to block me!
A few small things I've noticed in the past week on the VFR:
Filtering is tiring when doing it a lot - it took longer getting home last night on the motorway than my usual back road route, mostly due to almost constant bumper-to-bumper traffic. I took it easy but my arms and upper body were sore last night, although I may be tightening up a little as I'm not used to it yet
The slightly bent-over riding position isn't killing me as much as I thought (I have a very old back injury which I was expecting to kick in) but the base of my neck hurts after a while. Could that be due to the backpack I'm wearing?
The inner gloves I bought are already scrapped. Put them on yesterday on the way in as my fingers were almost numb earlier this week, they just caused me to lose feeling on the throttle. Couple that with more end-to-end traffic and loads of filtering and my right arm was stiff yesterday morning
Also, overall I feel more tired than usual from riding, but I expect that will be from more constant riding, rather than just lessons for a few hours every week or two.
One thing I do want to ask - how do most people handle riding in the pitch black on the back roads? I drove the A71 from Blackburn to Wishaw once a week after work all summer and loved it. Done it Wednesday night and got to my destination with slightly brown underwear! I kept the speed up but not being able to see the road in front of me was a bit daunting to say the least! Tried using the pass light to give me a snapshot of the road but is it alright to keep doing that?
Oh, and the Fi light was flickering last night on the way home. Some research and subsequent testing on the ride in this morning tells me the earth box is probably fecked, so that's my weekend sorted! The missus will have a fit when she finds out.... |
I wouldn't have thought a back pack would help, although many seem to use them without problems. But I wouldn't put anything hard/heavy in one, cos if you come off, risk of further injury.
Back lanes at night? Weeeeelll..... https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=296567
I had a break from riding last winter for 2 months. When I got going again in the spring, I found it very tiring, aches and pains after long rides. Kept going with it and soon got used to it again.
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 Posted: 19:53 - 31 Oct 2014 Post subject: Re: First full week as a biker |
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| Kamikaze Bob wrote: |
Filtering is tiring when doing it a lot - it took longer getting home last night on the motorway than my usual back road route, mostly due to almost constant bumper-to-bumper traffic. I took it easy but my arms and upper body were sore last night, although I may be tightening up a little as I'm not used to it yet |
Smart money's on this - and nice one for recognising it. Heavy traffic on motorways can definitely be fatiguing, ime. Just try to stay physically relaxed, but always mentally very alert. Get into some rad Cartesian dualism.
| Kamikaze Bob wrote: | The slightly bent-over riding position isn't killing me as much as I thought (I have a very old back injury which I was expecting to kick in) but the base of my neck hurts after a while. Could that be due to the backpack I'm wearing? |
Bungee your pack on next time, and then see how that feels. Iirc the vfr has useful points at which to hook stuff on.
| Kamikaze Bob wrote: | The inner gloves I bought are already scrapped. Put them on yesterday on the way in as my fingers were almost numb earlier this week, they just caused me to lose feeling on the throttle. Couple that with more end-to-end traffic and loads of filtering and my right arm was stiff yesterday morning
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Again, I'd say the numbness is down to being physically tense. A more relaxed grip means better circulation, and loads more 'feel'. Probably the arm thing is tenseness too.
| Kamikaze Bob wrote: | Tried using the pass light to give me a snapshot of the road but is it alright to keep doing that? |
Just keep it on high beam until seeing oncoming traffic. *shrug* ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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Cold hands; handlebar muffs (very effective but look awful) or heated grips - bliss!
And of course there are heated gloves available, tho' personally I CBA with wires hanging out/connecting up every time etc. So plenty of methods to try. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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| Kamikaze Bob wrote: | Have also decided, for times' sake as much as fun, to keep taking my back road route rather than the motorway. At least I have the chance to overtake on most of it instead of picking my way through traffic, and I'm sure my average speed is higher. |
Good choice. Motorways are boring, unless it's a long clear stretch and you want to see how fast you can go in a straight line. Twisties on a set of good backroads with lower traffic are much more fun, even in the dark when you have to keep your speed down.
For me, and some other riders on here I've been told, the motorway is for utility only. It's kind of a dull way to pile on the miles. I tend to avoid them unless they're faster than going through, say, city roads (come out on the junction closest to where my destination is) or the weather is so awful that it's safer to filter on the motorway than try my hand on damp, dark country roads behind people too shit scared to get above 30 in their cages.
| Kamikaze Bob wrote: | Should also help me loosen up a bit if I'm not trying to constantly watch my flanks for idiots in Audis or vans, and at least I know that filtering isn't as bad as some make out and I should be fine if I ever have to do it again. |
Don't even stop looking out for idiots on the road, they're always there. My current main nemesis are Qashqai drivers - they're bad even for faux-by-faux numpties.
Filtering isn't bad, it just requires a lot of concentration. People will try to block you and often you have about a second to contemplate coming to a stop or seriously reducing speed, or two HGVs might be too close together and you'll need to take some evasive action. My personal rule is, never filter over 40mph. Not worth the risk, you're not leaving yourself the reaction time or - crucially - leaving the numpties in cages their slower reaction time either. Pick and choose your moments to pass. As you learn the roads and improve your road sense on a bike you'll know instinctively which areas are suitable for filtering, and which you can push on further and flat out overtake other vehicles. ____________________ .
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