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[AcIdBuRnZ]

Hi,

Will be ordering a new full system for the bike this Friday. But I'm stuck in the dilema of what end can to get!!!

Choice is either carbon fibre or titanium.

So which would you choose? (the pics are quick mock-ups to try to see how each would look on my bike).

Also - maybe a silly question, but how would you clean/polish titanium?

P.S. remember that the downpipes will be stainless steel.

Cheers folks
Mark
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[Sparks!]

Carbon fibre wins it every time for me! Goes with anything, looks trick and is probably lighter than ally... looks cool mostly though
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[ProXimaCore]

I'm still on for the idea of selling the bike and using the money from that with the money you'd be spending on the full system to get a different bike.

But otherwise the Carbon fibre looks a bit better on your bike looking at the pictures. Depends on what bike it is really. I'd take the titanium one for my own bike though.
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[Visitor Q]

They both look OTT. Get a shabby exhaust for a shabby bike. (its in good nick, but its still an ER-5)
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Personally I went with Titanium on the Bandit.

All the best

Keith
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[AcIdBuRnZ]

[Ste]

Would go for titanium myself, well have done before and would do again. Reason for this is it is harder wearing than carbon fibre, which doesn't take too well to being used lots and hard. Also if you crash with a titanium exhaust then yes it gets marks on it and everything, but that's about it, or it can be bent back.

Carbon Fibre however will just make a hole in it very quickly and you can't repair it, you just have to live with it (not that easy I would expect if it's worn a hole in it ) or buy yourself a new one and the old one is of no value to anyone really.

[Mr C]

ask yourself why do you want to do this?

a full system will net you next to nothing on an ER5 whereas a can will give you some noise and tartiness, also the full system may wreck your fuelling




you need a good reason to spend 500 quid plus on an exhaust system for what is essentially a commuter bike
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[AcIdBuRnZ]

Yeah, but buying a can means destroying the original system to fit it. I've done it this way on cars and can't be bothered with the hassle!

I can't afford a bigger bike (see above post). I'm not looking for extra performance, just noise and tartiness, I admit that. So I want to at least spend some money and treat myself to something for the bike I have got. Ok, it's ONLY an ER-5, but it's mine and I wanna at least make it look/sound better.

Plus the original exhaust is just starting to blow very very slightly.
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[Ste]

You'll be able to afford a bigger bike a lot sooner if you save that £500 rather than wasting it on a full system for your current bike. Or just sell the ER5 and use that money and the £500 and you'll be able to get a 600 sports bike with no problems (well as long as the ER5 isn't a shed )

[AcIdBuRnZ]

Problem is though Ste is that I use the bike for transport - hard to sell it then get another bike quickly - hardly any in my price range locally
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[Mr C]

why does buying a can mean destroying the whole system

does anyone actually make a full system for an ER5
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[AcIdBuRnZ]

Yup - Remus (Grand Prix Revolution (removable baffles))

https://www.apexleisure.co.uk/remusrevolutiongrandprix.htm#Kawasaki

Well, the system is all one piece, so means cutting off the original can.
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[Mr C]

OK, saw the Akra and Muzzy photoshop and wondered
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[AcIdBuRnZ]

Sorry to confuse you!!!

Were only done to give an idea of how it might look with the different cans.


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[stinkwheel]

Folks always used to fit Motad Nexxus systems to EX500 engined bikes (practically standard on anything over 4 year old). They aren't stainless but they are pretty hard wearing. VERY slightly louder but you don't need to fiddle with the jetting.

Given that choice, I would go for titanium, don't wash it, just get it nice and hot to astound and impress your circle of friends with the pretty colours.
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[AcIdBuRnZ]

Can I also just add that since I have only been riding a year, I feel that the ER-5 will suffice until I leave college and can afford to run a bigger bike. It's quicker than the NSR and I don't feel like it struggles, I can get up to 80-90 pretty quick and on the roads where I live, that's more than fast enough!!!

Plus I don't have any shame in admitting that my riding ability is not up to handling something like a ZX6/R6.

I do think I'll benefit from this in the long run. I'm happy!
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[AcIdBuRnZ]

[Ste]

No it does not. Neither offers any value for money to you, so my suggestion would be to get which ever one you prefer, not which ever one more people on here prefer. It will offer no performance gains or anything so just get which ever one you like the looks of best.

They do advertise that you don't need to re-jet the carbs, but it is better to get it setup correctly for it to work well, as if it works badly it will mean you have less power than with the standard can.

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[stinkwheel]

You could try here for advice:
https://www.thekwaksownersclub.co.uk/forum/index.html

Mostly GPX/GPZ but covers your bike too. I used that forum a lot when I had my GPZ500, very helpful folks.
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[craigT19]

i vote titanium...cos carbon fibre has become far too comon :/


just for refernce tho....a mate of mine fitted IXS (sp??) system to his er5 and it caused all sorts of problems with feuling etc.
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[Ste]

They're both quite common as each other I reckon. The thing which I really was pleased with the Remus can which I got for the ZX6R was it looked at a distance, or with a brief look, basically like a normal type of exhaust, where as a carbon fibre one is obviously different. You might be wanting one which is sitting there letting the whole world know you have a race can, but I preferred it being slightly more subtle (someone's going to pick up on that point and ask me why I then went and got a TL1000R and put race cans on it ) and was less obvious from looking at it that it was a race can rather than a road legal can, so would be less obvious to a police person as well, although doubt it would have fooled them.

Probably creates all sorts of problems as it's a very different exhaust system to the one on there as standard, so yes it can run without the jetting being changed but will run much better with it changed as the needs of the race system are just so different to those of the standard system. Might be worth talking to a reputable bike shop about this and see what they suggest, or Demon Tweeks a call and ask them what they say. No point in calling the manufactures as they'll just tell you that you don't need to re jet the bike, but it all hinges on your definition of the word "need". So it's a very grey area, so speak to a mechanic or someone who knows more about this stuff and see what they have to say about it.

[carnislick]

I would say titanium.

carbon fibre reminds me far too much of burberry

1) it doesn't go with ANYTHING unless the thing it is going with is grey

2) it's usually more expensive

3) its less durable

4) titanium looks better

5) weight difference between the two will make about |this much| difference on an ER5 or 90% of bikes


Are you going for a road legal system or a "track" system?
if it's a "track" system a titanium may attract less attention -(edit) i made that comment without reading ste's comment above, i did think of that myself HONEST (end edit)

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[Ste]