Triumph Daytona 1050R: MCN review

[Ribenapigeon]

MCN have a review of a dealer built conversion of a Speed Tripple to a Daytona-like sport bike. MCN like it. £16k though and only ten will be made but seems a good price when you compare it to what people spend on the likes of Harleys.

[MarkJ]

This?

https://www.rideicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/unnamed-2-e1385487511175.jpg

[MarJay]

It'll be shit. Even if they tuned the nuts off of it it would only make about 150bhp max, and still weight a quarter of a tonne. When it's up against the Kawasaki H2, the S1000RR and the new R1 it'll look like an old overweight daytona.

Plus, thread is useless without a link or pics.
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[chris-red]

It looks like the front melted.
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[chris-red]

They won't do a 'proper' Hyperbike, there's no money in it, the 1000s category is too hotly contested.
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[chickenstrip]

Not sure about that. Both BMW and KTM came out of nowhere with large capacity sports bikes. You never know....

Inclined to agree with you that Triumph won't though.
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[Ribenapigeon]

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[stevo as b4]

I like the look of the 955i Daytona so much more than that.

I agree that a speed triple engine and chassis is not the place to start to build a competitive big sportsbike, but I guess this was not the Dealers intention.

The Daytona 675 looks shit in it's current guise, and basing looks on that is a fail too!

To make a 3cyl engine match a 200bhp 1000cc sportsbike, it will need over 1100cc as a minimum, 1150cc is more sensible, but then it would not fit into WSB regs would it?

I like the big speed triple, but it's now seen as a bigger heavier less nimble irrelevance compared to the Street.

I personally think they should have kept the 1300cc prototype bike in development, as it's far easier to build a ZZR1400/Busa rival than a 1000cc sportsbike IMO.

[MarJay]

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I think it's pretty nice just as a unique offering.
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[MarJay]

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[Seb]

I kind of disagree.

Being behind the curve from day one didn't stop the T595-955i from selling well for far longer than it had any right to.

The Sprint ST 1050 was also a huge sales hit that got it's market cannibalised by the slightly bigger GT. Thus it'd make far more sense to bring the ST back but a little lighter and sportier to properly go after the Z1000SX/VFR market. If they could get it down to 220kg, tart it up a little and get the luggage up to Futura standards whilst keeping it as close to the old model's price point as possible, I suspect it'd be a bit of a winner especially with the brand appeal that comes with it.

The problem of course is chopping 20kg from the bike with that boat anchor of a frame and engine
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[Az]

One of the below stands out a bit...

Triumph Daytona 1050R : £16000, 133bhp & 221kg
BMW S1000RR : £13735, 194bhp & 204kg
Kawasaki ZX10R : £12999, 197bhp & 198kg
Suzuki GSXR 1000 : £10999, 182bhp & 203kg
Based on 2014 models

Nice idea but it doesn't come close to the competition. It's just a Speed triple with fairings, you may as well buy a big screen for the speed triple or just get a Daytona 675.

[stevo as b4]

Are you quoting these new fangle wet weights in that list though?

203kg for a GSXR1000! The 2002 Blade was 150bhp and 168kg.

It's stupid that spec sheets have just recently flipped to quoting fully fuelled up ready to ride weights, since the last time I ever bothered looking at new bike specs around 5-6years ago.

[Az]

[Vracktal]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B346UNrIcAACYYM.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B346UVoIgAA3x2e.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B346UP9IAAAqYa7.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B346UVnIEAABR0K.jpg

Images from twitter, sadly too small to read the text. :c
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[MarJay]

135bhp? I bet it weighs 250kg wet, probably 200kg dry. You might as well go and buy an old blade. It'll be lighter and just as powerful.
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[stevo as b4]

Your Google search says 195kg wet for a 954 Blade.
Honda says 168kg dry.

I know the old argument of dry weights meaning fuck all, like crankshaft bhp figures, but even so I think it's safe to say that modern litre bikes are heavier as an accurate generalisation.

[MarJay]

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