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Polarbear wrote: | recman wrote: | I couldn't wait for my shift to start this morning to have a poo. |
If you couldn't wait does that mean you shat yourself?
In other, what's ground my gears........
You have to publish anything that tries to belittle Britain's achievements don't you BBC.
Bletchley Park’s contribution to WW2 'over-rated'
If you read the article it's one mans view, it's not news and tbh there isn't anything particularly controversial about it except BBC's pulling the most controversial comment and using it as another 'knock Britain's history' headline.
For one thing alone, the breaking of the Enigma code, thousands of lives of sailors and hundreds of ships that were saved from U boats in the Atlantic convoys and those convoys were our life blood.
BBC, stop putting forward opinion as news and facts.
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I don't see how they can think anyone with any knowledge of history believes them. The efforts of Bletchley are widely thought to have shortened the war by up to two years - imagine the additional carnage that would have happened in that time.
It's revisionism to suit an agenda, and is a dangerous thing to play with. You have only to look at history, proper history, to know that. It's no different to holocaust denial, or denial of Stalin's Great Terror and all that followed it.
Instead of aping what happened in Russia in the early 20th century, we should be trying to avoid it. How can anyone think that is better than what the West has achieved? Truly it is a kind of collective insanity. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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The academic study of any subject has limitations. Practical experience is essential to a proper understanding. Do we assume that Professor Ferris would be the right person to run our intelligence services? Or would it be better to have someone who has come through the ranks of those services, and has studied his subject?
This is why we have this pushback against so-called experts. Who are the real experts? Note I don't entirely dismiss the study of a subject. But hypotheses are not facts. In the end, who can actually know how much the efforts of Bletchley and other intelligence work shortened the war by? It is an impossible thing to determine with any accuracy, since we don't have practical experience of an alternative without those resources. Hypothesise is all we can do. But it seems clear on a study of the evidence that such organisations undoubtedly played an important role. Note that the claims of how much these services shortened the war by are over a range of timescales. The exact time isn't the important bit. That they helped considerably is what counts.
The complaint isn't about the accuracy or otherwise of the data. The complaint is about the way the BBC chooses to slant things. Always in the negative. Always looking for the bad in everything to do with this country. When do you ever see a headline from them that says a British contribution to the world might have been underestimated? Is it that, by some peculiar quirk, this never happens? That is the complaint against the BBC.
And at some point, who's to say another academic might not come along and say this Prof. Ferris is wrong and then lays out credible reasons why that might be so? The focus is all wrong. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | The academic study of any subject has limitations. Practical experience is essential to a proper understanding. Do we assume that Professor Ferris would be the right person to run our intelligence services? Or would it be better to have someone who has come through the ranks of those services, and has studied his subject?
This is why we have this pushback against so-called experts. Who are the real experts? Note I don't entirely dismiss the study of a subject. But hypotheses are not facts. In the end, who can actually know how much the efforts of Bletchley and other intelligence work shortened the war by? It is an impossible thing to determine with any accuracy, since we don't have practical experience of an alternative without those resources. Hypothesise is all we can do. But it seems clear on a study of the evidence that such organisations undoubtedly played an important role. Note that the claims of how much these services shortened the war by are over a range of timescales. The exact time isn't the important bit. That they helped considerably is what counts.
The complaint isn't about the accuracy or otherwise of the data. The complaint is about the way the BBC chooses to slant things. Always in the negative. Always looking for the bad in everything to do with this country. When do you ever see a headline from them that says a British contribution to the world might have been underestimated? Is it that, by some peculiar quirk, this never happens? That is the complaint against the BBC.
And at some point, who's to say another academic might not come along and say this Prof. Ferris is wrong and then lays out credible reasons why that might be so? The focus is all wrong. |
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A100man wrote: |
..try reading the Guardian. |
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On a smaller issue that only affects me.
I’m having to pack up my garage into boxes, ready for the move to our new house.
So much crap!, so many awkward shaped pieces of junk!, so much accumulated dirt & dust . ____________________ I am the sum total of my own existence, what went before makes me who I am now! |
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pepperami wrote: | On a smaller issue that only affects me.
I’m having to pack up my garage into boxes, ready for the move to our new house.
So much crap!, so many awkward shaped pieces of junk!, so much accumulated dirt & dust . |
Be ruthless! When was the last time you used something you have found there? What is the actual likelihood that you will use it again? Could it do with replacing with something newer/better anyway? There is no excuse for accumulating or keeping junk. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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You bet! I’m getting a skip in ____________________ I am the sum total of my own existence, what went before makes me who I am now! |
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Polarbear wrote: |
I'm hopeless at throwing things out. I still have a box of fuse wire of various amps yet I haven't lived in a house with that type of fuse for must be 30 years.
But it will come in handy one day. |
If I were your kids, with the experience of clearing out I went through when my dad died, I'd shoot you now, before you can make it worse still ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I detected the sarcasm in the first place. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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My entire house is like some kind of pig sty.
I don't know who has been living here in the couple of brief absences I've had lately, but it seems that they come in, unpack a rucksack, throw clothes, paperwork and dirty dishes around, and then go away again.
Honestly!
I need to get a grip. ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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Note to self, don't forget you are defrosting the fridge in the bedroom.
I can envision myself wandering about on BCF tomorrow or Friday evening and seeing that note and going Aw Fuck, forgot about that.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 178 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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