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PostPosted: 20:37 - 19 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I couldn't wait for my shift to start this morning to have a poo.

Do you work from home?
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hong Kong Phooey wrote:
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People wearing a mask under their chin.


Almost as bad as the mouth-breathers who leave their noses uncovered.


It's not the viral issue but the sartorial issue that bothers me.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

recman wrote:
I couldn't wait for my shift to start this morning to have a poo.


If you couldn't wait does that mean you shat yourself? Wink

In other, what's ground my gears........

You have to publish anything that tries to belittle Britain's achievements don't you BBC. Evil or Very Mad

Bletchley Park’s contribution to WW2 'over-rated'

If you read the article it's one mans view, it's not news and tbh there isn't anything particularly controversial about it except BBC's pulling the most controversial comment and using it as another 'knock Britain's history' headline.

For one thing alone, the breaking of the Enigma code, thousands of lives of sailors and hundreds of ships that were saved from U boats in the Atlantic convoys and those convoys were our life blood.

BBC, stop putting forward opinion as news and facts.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54604895
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
recman wrote:
I couldn't wait for my shift to start this morning to have a poo.


If you couldn't wait does that mean you shat yourself? Wink

In other, what's ground my gears........

You have to publish anything that tries to belittle Britain's achievements don't you BBC. Evil or Very Mad

Bletchley Park’s contribution to WW2 'over-rated'

If you read the article it's one mans view, it's not news and tbh there isn't anything particularly controversial about it except BBC's pulling the most controversial comment and using it as another 'knock Britain's history' headline.

For one thing alone, the breaking of the Enigma code, thousands of lives of sailors and hundreds of ships that were saved from U boats in the Atlantic convoys and those convoys were our life blood.

BBC, stop putting forward opinion as news and facts.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54604895


I don't see how they can think anyone with any knowledge of history believes them. The efforts of Bletchley are widely thought to have shortened the war by up to two years - imagine the additional carnage that would have happened in that time.

It's revisionism to suit an agenda, and is a dangerous thing to play with. You have only to look at history, proper history, to know that. It's no different to holocaust denial, or denial of Stalin's Great Terror and all that followed it.

Instead of aping what happened in Russia in the early 20th century, we should be trying to avoid it. How can anyone think that is better than what the West has achieved? Truly it is a kind of collective insanity.
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
You have to publish anything that tries to belittle Britain's achievements don't you BBC. Evil or Very Mad
Bletchley Park’s contribution to WW2 'over-rated'
If you read the article it's one mans view, it's not news and tbh there isn't anything particularly controversial about it except BBC's pulling the most controversial comment and using it as another 'knock Britain's history' headline.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54604895

I don't see how they can think anyone with any knowledge of history believes them. The efforts of Bletchley are widely thought to have shortened the war by up to two years - imagine the additional carnage that would have happened in that time.

Has anyone actually read the book in question? If not, aren't you just doing the same thing you blame the BBC of?
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

The academic study of any subject has limitations. Practical experience is essential to a proper understanding. Do we assume that Professor Ferris would be the right person to run our intelligence services? Or would it be better to have someone who has come through the ranks of those services, and has studied his subject?

This is why we have this pushback against so-called experts. Who are the real experts? Note I don't entirely dismiss the study of a subject. But hypotheses are not facts. In the end, who can actually know how much the efforts of Bletchley and other intelligence work shortened the war by? It is an impossible thing to determine with any accuracy, since we don't have practical experience of an alternative without those resources. Hypothesise is all we can do. But it seems clear on a study of the evidence that such organisations undoubtedly played an important role. Note that the claims of how much these services shortened the war by are over a range of timescales. The exact time isn't the important bit. That they helped considerably is what counts.

The complaint isn't about the accuracy or otherwise of the data. The complaint is about the way the BBC chooses to slant things. Always in the negative. Always looking for the bad in everything to do with this country. When do you ever see a headline from them that says a British contribution to the world might have been underestimated? Is it that, by some peculiar quirk, this never happens? That is the complaint against the BBC.

And at some point, who's to say another academic might not come along and say this Prof. Ferris is wrong and then lays out credible reasons why that might be so? The focus is all wrong.
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
The academic study of any subject has limitations. Practical experience is essential to a proper understanding. Do we assume that Professor Ferris would be the right person to run our intelligence services? Or would it be better to have someone who has come through the ranks of those services, and has studied his subject?

This is why we have this pushback against so-called experts. Who are the real experts? Note I don't entirely dismiss the study of a subject. But hypotheses are not facts. In the end, who can actually know how much the efforts of Bletchley and other intelligence work shortened the war by? It is an impossible thing to determine with any accuracy, since we don't have practical experience of an alternative without those resources. Hypothesise is all we can do. But it seems clear on a study of the evidence that such organisations undoubtedly played an important role. Note that the claims of how much these services shortened the war by are over a range of timescales. The exact time isn't the important bit. That they helped considerably is what counts.

The complaint isn't about the accuracy or otherwise of the data. The complaint is about the way the BBC chooses to slant things. Always in the negative. Always looking for the bad in everything to do with this country. When do you ever see a headline from them that says a British contribution to the world might have been underestimated? Is it that, by some peculiar quirk, this never happens? That is the complaint against the BBC.

And at some point, who's to say another academic might not come along and say this Prof. Ferris is wrong and then lays out credible reasons why that might be so? The focus is all wrong.


..try reading the Guardian.
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:


..try reading the Guardian.


No.
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Who are the real experts?

A100man wrote:
try reading the Guardian.

More cobblers!!!

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PostPosted: 17:04 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a smaller issue that only affects me.
I’m having to pack up my garage into boxes, ready for the move to our new house.
So much crap!, so many awkward shaped pieces of junk!, so much accumulated dirt & dust Shocked .
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
On a smaller issue that only affects me.
I’m having to pack up my garage into boxes, ready for the move to our new house.
So much crap!, so many awkward shaped pieces of junk!, so much accumulated dirt & dust Shocked .


Be ruthless! When was the last time you used something you have found there? What is the actual likelihood that you will use it again? Could it do with replacing with something newer/better anyway? There is no excuse for accumulating or keeping junk.
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

You bet! I’m getting a skip in Thumbs Up Shocked
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
pepperami wrote:
On a smaller issue that only affects me.
I’m having to pack up my garage into boxes, ready for the move to our new house.
So much crap!, so many awkward shaped pieces of junk!, so much accumulated dirt & dust Shocked .


Be ruthless! When was the last time you used something you have found there? What is the actual likelihood that you will use it again? Could it do with replacing with something newer/better anyway? There is no excuse for accumulating or keeping junk.


I'm hopeless at throwing things out. I still have a box of fuse wire of various amps yet I haven't lived in a house with that type of fuse for must be 30 years.

But it will come in handy one day. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:


I'm hopeless at throwing things out. I still have a box of fuse wire of various amps yet I haven't lived in a house with that type of fuse for must be 30 years.

But it will come in handy one day. Thumbs Up


If I were your kids, with the experience of clearing out I went through when my dad died, I'd shoot you now, before you can make it worse still Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
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..try reading the Guardian.


No.


I phrased that badly. Perhaps this - '..you should try reading the Guardian!'

(does the sarcasm come across now?)

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PostPosted: 19:17 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I detected the sarcasm in the first place.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 20 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freddyfruitbat wrote:
recman wrote:
I couldn't wait for my shift to start this morning to have a poo.

Do you work from home?


Got up, coast was clear. Rode to work, still clear. Starting making a coffee before the shift started and the enemy had arrived at the gates.
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My entire house is like some kind of pig sty.

I don't know who has been living here in the couple of brief absences I've had lately, but it seems that they come in, unpack a rucksack, throw clothes, paperwork and dirty dishes around, and then go away again.

Honestly! Rolling Eyes


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I need to get a grip.
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PostPosted: 09:17 - 21 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
My entire house is like some kind of pig sty.

I don't know who has been living here in the couple of brief absences I've had lately, but it seems that they come in, unpack a rucksack, throw clothes, paperwork and dirty dishes around, and then go away again.

Honestly! Rolling Eyes


Laughing Laughing Laughing
I need to get a grip.

So long as nothing has mould on it yet you should be OK
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 21 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note to self, don't forget you are defrosting the fridge in the bedroom.

I can envision myself wandering about on BCF tomorrow or Friday evening and seeing that note and going Aw Fuck, forgot about that.

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My noisy alarm arrived from Amazon today. I went to put it together so i could play with it, but i can't get the little bolts open to put the batteries in, they are jammed tight. It is clockwise that undoes these things, isn't it/

They sent a titchy little Allen key to undo them but i can't seem to get it off.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 21 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rightly tightly, lefty loosely.
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PostPosted: 01:49 - 22 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
My entire house is like some kind of pig sty.

I don't know who has been living here in the couple of brief absences I've had lately, but it seems that they come in, unpack a rucksack, throw clothes, paperwork and dirty dishes around, and then go away again.

Honestly! Rolling Eyes


Laughing Laughing Laughing
I need to get a grip.


You have phroggers.
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PostPosted: 06:06 - 22 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
My noisy alarm arrived from Amazon today. I went to put it together so i could play with it, but i can't get the little bolts open to put the batteries in

Hand

If you want loud then you need one of these (or one that's very similar): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acctim-Large-Bell-Alarm-Clock-Brass/dp/B00015C7GE/

If for some strange reason that's not quite loud enough to wake your neighbours then putting it in a metal saucepan makes it loud enough to wake the dead.

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Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Rightly tightly, lefty loosely.


Stucky stucky smacky smacky
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