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PostPosted: 12:05 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Ural MIR, limited edition Reply with quote

The solar panel may be used to charge the 12v motorcycle battery or the 12v outlet. You can take the panel off and mount a standard steel rack there, instead of it. If not in use, you may cover the side car with a ''hi-tech, space grade cloth''.

The QR code on the 36mm spanner will get you to a scene from the film ''Armageddon'' (1998) with Lev Andropov smashing stuff with the spanner. It should get you this scene (not sure about that though): https://youtu.be/dEkOT3IngMQ?t=28s

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US version (16,999USD) The engine is a ''Ural classic'' air cooled, 750cc four stroke boxer, with 4 speed gear box. Ural used DFi for this model, making approx. 41hp, with 2wd option. Also, the motorcycle has got a special paint job called Orbital white, mix of metallic and pearlescent coulour, to make blue reflection effect.

European version (Ural Hybrid) - all that above, but with carburetors and in powder grey colour, without the spanner, solar panel and that hi-tech cloth. Hybrid in terms of mix of modern and classic technology, hence the carburetors. One of the last Ural's with carbs to be made.

Original link: https://www.motorkari.cz/clanky/moto-novinky/ural/ural-predstavil-limitovanou-edici-mir-30140.html

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European version, Ural hybrid
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually like in a retro get something different way, but can you ditch the sidecar?

...or at least swap the solar panel/rack for a general purpose machine gun to add 'character'?
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: Ural MIR, limited edition Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:


The QR code on the 36mm spanner will get you to a scene from the film ''Armageddon'' (1998) with Lev Andropov smashing stuff with the spanner. It should get you this scene (not sure about that though): https://youtu.be/dEkOT3IngMQ?t=28s



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PostPosted: 13:42 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd HAVE to ditch the sidecar.

Not road legal in the UK. It's on the wrong side.
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
You'd HAVE to ditch the sidecar.
Not road legal in the UK. It's on the wrong side.

I guess that'd be because 'new', I'd think not applicable to vintage stuff.
That based on one at a bike meeting earlier this year...

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PostPosted: 14:40 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: Ural MIR, limited edition Reply with quote

I've fancied trying a sidecar outfit for a while and this is seriously nice; but:

RhynoCZ wrote:
16,999USD


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PostPosted: 15:10 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:

I guess that'd be because 'new', I'd think not applicable to vintage stuff.
That based on one at a bike meeting earlier this year...


There was a loophole in C&U regs which has now been closed. You could register an imported right hand sidecar outfit during a particular "window". Once the've been registered, they can't be unregistered.

Shame, because they don't do LHS 2WD ones. You could probably make one if you flipped the rear wheel and fitted a BMW engine.

The entertainment value of a solo Ural wears off very quickly although I will admit that riding a motorcycle in reverse is WAY more difficult than I thought it would be.
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: Ural MIR, limited edition Reply with quote

-Monty- wrote:
I've fancied trying a sidecar outfit for a while and this is seriously nice; but:

RhynoCZ wrote:
16,999USD


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Meh, that's about £2.50 in proper money Laughing

Seriously though, it's a lot of metal for your money if it's around £10k, given the likely fairly small amount that will be produced.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

good job we dont get a spanner it would be nicked the first time you parked up somwere
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: Ural MIR, limited edition Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:

Seriously though, it's a lot of metal for your money if it's around £10k, given the likely fairly small amount that will be produced.

It's a bog standard Ural painted white with a cheapo solar panel and a spanner bolted to it.

£10k is about right for a basic model Ural.

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PostPosted: 17:57 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: Ural MIR, limited edition Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
£10k is about right for a basic model Ural.

And yet it's so very, very wrong at the same time. Hurt
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: Ural MIR, limited edition Reply with quote

Does it have a leisure battery or something?

Or is the charging system just REALLY poor, to need an additional solar panel?
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was going to ride across the world on a bike, it'd have to be on something like this.
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PostPosted: 01:01 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tungtvann wrote:
it'd have to be on something like this.

Something that's not a bike?

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PostPosted: 01:06 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Tungtvann wrote:
it'd have to be on something like this.

Something that's not a bike?

Wink

Actually, I take it back. I thought a Ural would be like the AK47 of motorbikes(trikes?). Tough, rugged, reliable, industrial and easily repaired, with space to carry loads of kit and less likely for me to fall off it on rough terrain.

Looks like I wouldn't get to Calais on one!

https://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=794963

Less this:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/AK-47_type_II_Part_DM-ST-89-01131.jpg

More this:

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PostPosted: 01:23 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed; R1 is where it's at!
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely a BMW with just a few years of development is a slightly better purchase? Looking at the monies for the solo bike, I think I think much better could be done.

There was an article in a magazine (now probably claimed by my boy) not long ago about a UK company making sidecars. Cant remember the name or how much money they wanted, but they were fitting them to all kinds of modern kit.

Saw a late 80s boxer in town a while back complete with enclosed sidecar. Had 95k on the clocks. Owner caught me looking and insisted that want the first time round either...
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Velorex did/does sidecars for various motorcycle, not sure if left hand side ones. Thumbs Up

Edit: Google ,,Velorex UK'' for the left hand side sidecars. Thumbs Up
Edit 2: an example: https://www.simplysidecars.co.uk/sport563.html
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Velorex did/does sidecars for various motorcycle, not sure if left hand side ones. Thumbs Up
FWIW Watsonian - Squire are the name I remember (was it just Squires at one point?). You can buy the car and then pay more for fitting top your bike.

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...Edit: Google ,,Velorex UK'' for the left hand side sidecars. Thumbs Up
Edit 2: an example: https://www.simplysidecars.co.uk/sport563.html
I did and also got simplysidecars.co.uk. Interesting as that site tells me you could ride with a sidecar on just a cbt. Why you'd want to is another question Wink
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Velorex sidecars do come in left sided and are utter death-traps.

I have scars to prove it.

You get left side urals too but NOT the 2wd ones because the sidecar drive shaft comes off the left side of the shaft-drive bevel box. You could flip the wheel, but then it would go backwards. Flip it and fit a BMW engine (final drive runs the other way on the BMW boxer engines) and you've got yourself a 2WD compatible LHS sidecar. Waste of a boxer engine if you ask me though and to my knowledge, noone has ever done it.

I know this because a mate of mine painstakingly fitted an LPG converted boxer engine into an ural sidecar outfit a few years back only to find he had five reverse gears. I'm still taking the piss.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know this because a mate of mine painstakingly fitted an LPG converted boxer engine into an ural sidecar outfit a few years back only to find he had five reverse gears. I'm still taking the piss.


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PostPosted: 21:20 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Velorex sidecars do come in left sided and are utter death-traps.

I have scars to prove it.

I have owned several Velorex highback sidecars/tradesmans boxes and have found them superior to any other makes I have owned including a Steib. Why do you say they are a death trap?
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Urals have priced themselves out of the market, a second and very similar offering is the Chang Jiang which just like the Ural is a reversed engineered BMW but they do not cost 12-13k, you can have a new one with the option of a sidevalve or OHV engine for around 5k
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonzoomer wrote:
I have owned several Velorex highback sidecars/tradesmans boxes and have found them superior to any other makes I have owned including a Steib. Why do you say they are a death trap?


Too high, bouncy and tippy to be fitted to an underpowered 2-stroke leading to a vastly restricted ability to turn left downhill in particular.

I'm sure they're better with a bigger, more powerful bike that lets you attack the corner but on something like a Jawa (which they are standard fitment on), they are an accident waiting to happen.

One of the garages in Edinburgh had a (horrifically badly setup) Jawa/velorex combo in their yard which they offered for free to anyone who could ride it round the block without crossing the white line, bumping a kerb or hitting a parked car. I doubt anyone sucessfully claimed it.
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
moonzoomer wrote:
I have owned several Velorex highback sidecars/tradesmans boxes and have found them superior to any other makes I have owned including a Steib. Why do you say they are a death trap?


Too high, bouncy and tippy to be fitted to an underpowered 2-stroke leading to a vastly restricted ability to turn left downhill in particular.

I'm sure they're better with a bigger, more powerful bike that lets you attack the corner but on something like a Jawa (which they are standard fitment on), they are an accident waiting to happen.

One of the garages in Edinburgh had a (horrifically badly setup) Jawa/velorex combo in their yard which they offered for free to anyone who could ride it round the block without crossing the white line, bumping a kerb or hitting a parked car. I doubt anyone sucessfully claimed it.
I have never ever had any problems with the handling of the velorex having been using them since 1978 accident free after passing my test on a 350 combi, the high ground clearance and full size wheel is a bonus imo, did you have the shock absorber set correctly as well as the toe in and lean out? I currently have 3 highbacks fitted to a Jawa 500, VT500E and 75 CB500T, the jawa 500 single is by far the better tug. The only incident I ever had with any velerox was when I had my younger brother skiing behind me at around 45 mph in the snow, my brakes worked but his did not. Mr. Green
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