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 Posted: 02:08 - 27 Nov 2014 Post subject: Motorcycle Courier Stories |
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Stumbled upon this ADVrider thread that's been going for 8(!) years now and spent a couple days going through it. Lots of entertaining short tales from couriers from around the world about working during the heyday of motorcycle couriering during the 70s and 80s.
As someone born in the 90s with the advent of the internet just around the corner, what really struck me was how the internet really shut down m'cycle couriering as a big industry; prior to the 'net, there wasn't really any other way of quickly sending stuff around cities apart from a motorcycle courier
https://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=375701&highlight=%22dark+moto+tour%22
(Ignore the moto tour search stuff in the URL, was looking for DDMT thread and this was one of the hits ) ____________________ Motorsapien Art |
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That's a very interesting thread, the stories that I have read so far are great, they'll definitely help pass the time. For some odd reason which I don't know about, I really would like to do some motorcycle courier work and after reading what I have read, I want to start now! Thanks for sharing  |
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"The Carin Sharin Chronicles" by Dave Gurman is a good read on this subject, for a UK point of view. It's a summary of his articles written for "The Rider's Digest", a publication that used to be distributed for free around London (I used to pick up a copy at the tea hut at High Beach), originally intended for London couriers.
I've often thought it's something I would have liked to try, but nowadays I don't think I'd be game for it. Doesn't matter what the weather, you have to be out there all day, every day, which might have been ok when I was younger, but not so much now. But yeah, some of it makes for good reading. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Actually interesting stuff, although it does go a little "Buster McCrabbe and me were bombing down Horse Guards this one time, then Daleks, but we still got to the pub for last orders." ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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The stories do read a bit like what the Used Motorcycle Guide published (dear god I did enjoy those!) and I liked how easy it was to just get into the swing of things. Not sure whether it's due to the way with words the authors have, or because the experiences they chronicled are universally shared (if a little bit on the wild side) among motorcyclists.
I have a hunch that traffic was far less congested back in the 70s/80s though, which would allow a lot more crazy filtering and general delivery hoonage. I also wonder what madness the couriers back then would have got up to if they had access to supermotos  ____________________ Motorsapien Art |
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| SpartanX wrote: | I really would like to do some motorcycle courier work and after reading what I have read, I want to start now! |
No. You dont.
You spend the entire time sitting at the office waiting for a job to come out, you make less than £100 a week for working 24hrs a day, you get treated like a cunt, there's no sick pay, no holiday, should the bike break down the controller has a strop & doesn't give you any work for the next few weeks. Not only that but the stress of not knowing if you're going to earn anything next week makes you very ill (headaches, not sleeping propperly etc), the poor diet from eating petrol station food & never eating a proper meal will also make you very ill. Your partner will cheat, then leave you as you're simply never there.
| Andy9934 wrote: | Is the money good? |
Depends who you work for. Theres a tiny amount of companies that people are earning a liveable wage off of, but most places including the one I worked for will fuck you over.
This covers the route using the pub near my parents house as a start point.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/The+Wheatsheaf,+301+Loose+Rd,+Maidstone+ME15+9PY,+UK/Pembury+Hospital,+Tonbridge+Rd,+Tunbridge+Wells,+Kent+TN2+4QJ,+United+Kingdom/Maidstone+Hospital,+Hermitage+Ln,+Maidstone,+Kent+ME16+9QQ,+United+Kingdom/The+Wheatsheaf,+301+Loose+Rd,+Maidstone+ME15+9PY,+UK/@51.2095022,0.3443349,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m26!4m25!1m5!1m1!1s0x47df318eae0433a1:0xf5146075c70accae!2m2!1d0.5310435!2d51.2563928!1m5!1m1!1s0x47df464498bcd019:0x5a0ad49781d84897!2m2!1d0.305743!2d51.149222!1m5!1m1!1s0x47df33edf3dc6447:0x55d56455ee24acd!2m2!1d0.484042!2d51.273695!1m5!1m1!1s0x47df318eae0433a1:0xf5146075c70accae!2m2!1d0.5310435!2d51.2563928!3e0
You did this once or twice a night, usually between 10pm and 6am for £9 a go.
A good run looked like this;
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/The+Wheatsheaf,+301+Loose+Rd,+Maidstone+ME15+9PY,+UK/Maidstone+Hospital,+Hermitage+Ln,+Maidstone,+Kent+ME16+9QQ,+United+Kingdom/King%27s+College+Hospital,+Denmark+Hill,+London+SE5+9RS,+United+Kingdom/Maidstone+Hospital,+Hermitage+Ln,+Maidstone,+Kent+ME16+9QQ,+United+Kingdom/The+Wheatsheaf,+301+Loose+Rd,+Maidstone+ME15+9PY,+UK/@51.1398249,0.0378556,9z/data=!4m32!4m31!1m5!1m1!1s0x47df318eae0433a1:0xf5146075c70accae!2m2!1d0.5310435!2d51.2563928!1m5!1m1!1s0x47df33edf3dc6447:0x55d56455ee24acd!2m2!1d0.484042!2d51.273695!1m5!1m1!1s0x48760380aaf6e78d:0x7d411c322e64ec0b!2m2!1d-0.093512!2d51.467917!1m5!1m1!1s0x47df33edf3dc6447:0x55d56455ee24acd!2m2!1d0.484042!2d51.273695!1m5!1m1!1s0x47df318eae0433a1:0xf5146075c70accae!2m2!1d0.5310435!2d51.2563928!3e0
And earned you a whopping £34. You had to go back to Maidstone hosptial on the way home to drop off the freezer tubes & polystyrene boxes. Don't forget that your fuel money comes out of your own pocket too.
It was nice on the warm days, Nice long run up to pembury through the lanes.
But the people you have to deal with at the other end are 99.9% cunts. I've had NHS staff refuse to sign for samples for being two minuites late, I've had staff at the kidney treatment centre in Tonbridge wells actually shouting at me for being useless for not getting there within 15mins (from the wheatsheaf start point, to pembury, pick up bloods at pembury then transport to other side of t-wells) I've been told off for dripping on the carpet after riding half a lap of the M25 in pissing rain to deliver a letter.
Tl;dr - It really is a bullshit job if you're not with the right company, and unfourtunately there's a lot more bullshit companies out there than there is genuine ones you can make a living from. ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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Quite agree with Iain in that a courier job may sound an amazing, exciting, drama filled and simple way of earning lots of cash since what could be nicer than being paid for riding around town all day in the sunshine.
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On paper it sounds amazing. In reality, it's horrible.
The worst bit is it sucks the fun out of riding, as having spent all day riding & being miserable you get to an odd day off, mates are going out for a ride. Fuck that, spent all week riding, you just want a break from it all.
Mebbe it was better in the '80s.  ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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| _Iain_ wrote: | | SpartanX wrote: | I really would like to do some motorcycle courier work and after reading what I have read, I want to start now! |
No. You dont.
You spend the entire time sitting at the office waiting for a job to come out, you make less than £100 a week for working 24hrs a day, you get treated like a cunt, there's no sick pay, no holiday, should the bike break down the controller has a strop & doesn't give you any work for the next few weeks. Not only that but the stress of not knowing if you're going to earn anything next week makes you very ill (headaches, not sleeping propperly etc), the poor diet from eating petrol station food & never eating a proper meal will also make you very ill. Your partner will cheat, then leave you as you're simply never there.
| .................................. Welp, I think it's time to look for a different part-time job |
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It's the kind of job (or was, in the early 90s when I did it) which was fucking horrific at the time but which you can now look back on with a sense of fond nostalgia. There were loads of up sides...but it didn't seem like it at the time.
The single best memory I have is of going to Television Centre and getting snapped aboard a 400 Superdream the meat in a John Lydon/Barry Sheene sandwich, with Lydon pretending to be doing me up the Gary The cad
I idiotically gave that picture to the person who bought the 'Dream off me
The worst memory I have was from the utterly appalling winter of 1991/92. Riding this terrible GSX400 that kept cutting out on me in the slush. Frozen solid. Getting splashed with icy water from the puddles every time I stopped to spray more WD in various bits of the electrics. Hands in the most indescribable agony from constantly being exposed to the cold air. Finally getting to my destination and dropping parcel (which turned out to be a bundle of important documents) and getting them soaked. Some bitch from hell shouting abuse at me for doing this. And finally getting home in the throes of hypothermia to discover that our landlord was evicting us within days because his son had left uni and had nowhere to live.
But you tend to remember the good stuff.
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UBG/UMG used to be full of courier's stories. Though they were obviously heavily embellished it was still a good laugh to read sometimes. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 173 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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