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pepperami
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 08 Dec 2014    Post subject: Old bikes and their modern equivalent Reply with quote
So there I was looking through Steal-bay once again.
I was looking at Honda cb 250 rs`s for no other reason than I have always fancied my own after riding one years ago.
The usual thing about stupid prices and lack of cash meant I was`nt prepared to pay the price they wanted for some of the old nails on there.

There were Honda CBF 250-4`s on there for not much more money than the old RS`s???? Confused
So will these basic CBF`s be the new light weight good old all rounder that the RS`s were in their day??
could it be worth a punt on one of them instead of an RS?

What other bikes from the past now have a modern equivalent?
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 08 Dec 2014    Post subject: Re: Old bikes and their modern equivalent Reply with quote
pepperami wrote:

So will these basic CBF`s be the new light weight good old all rounder that the RS`s were in their day??


I doubt it. The modern CBF 250 is both heavier and less powerful than the old CB250RS. Plus the fact that there never seems to be more than a small handful for sale on ebay which suggests they didn't sell too well when they were available new.

The same can be said for Honda's new range of CB500s. They're actually all heavier and less powerful than the old CB500 twins of the 90s-early 00s.

However, people on here are very quick to slag off the manufacturers for this which is silly. It would be like slagging off a new rider for buying a "boring old commuter bike," when in fact they have done so because the licensing laws prevent them from buying a IL4 600 sports bike (or other highly illegal kitten killing machine). I think a similar thing can be said of the motorcycle manufacturers; they will have to jump through emissions hoops etc. just as new riders have to jump through licensing hoops.

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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 08 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
There's the "new" SR400 which is an EFI version of the old late '70s SR. Afaicr, it's kick start only - which is a bit strange. Nice looking bike but dear at £5.2 - you could get some awesome second hand bikes with that kind of dosh.

Then there's the new cb500 twin, of course.
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 08 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
The CB250RS was a bit of an anomaly in it's day; 250 dirt-bike motor in a lightweight 125 road-frame, it was lighter, more powerful and genuinely more 'sporty' than the top selling 250 Super-Dream; seem to recall the marketing men made references to Velocettes and Gold-Stars and the like, sort of trying to vaunt it as a propper 'Sporting Single', and while I have, many a time, usually when talking about 'kiddie-go-kwik' 125's, called it a 'commuter', that is probably rather unfair, it is by modern standards, but it WAS by the standards of its era, a proper sports bike, in as much as, the specialisation into ever more dedicated machines for reassuringly smaller niche markets, hadn't got much further than splitting out 'street-scramblers', as ore than a road bike with knoblies ad a high level tail-pipe.

So, it would probably be fairer to say that the closest modern equivalent of the CB250RS is the CBR250, not the CBF.. but slot a CRF450 lump into a CBR125 chassis, you'd be closer!
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