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PostPosted: 11:10 - 15 Feb 2015    Post subject: Tyre pressure alert valve caps Reply with quote

So,

I bought some of these on a whim to top up an order when using some vouchers I had. I was thinking they are probably no good since if they work, why isn't everyone using them, given the price and the importance of tyre pressures, but seemed worth a shout.

Well, I put them on last weekend and they seem to work a treat. They just screw on in place of the little plastic dust caps and act as a visual alert to your tyre pressure dropping. I've tested them against various pressures using my own gauge.

So, anybody any experience of these? Any reason why I shouldn't be using them? Obviously no replacement for proper manual checks but for £4....
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 15 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Partly down to ignorance, partly down to "why spend an extra £4", and if you're going to look at your dust caps, you're probably likely to put air in there anyway! You'd also realise something awry with your tyre pressures when your bike starts handling in a funny manner. 10-15psi change and you'd notice a difference. Any seasoned rider will be able to tell this based on the feedback going through the bars, seat and pegs. I'm not too sure what pressures these things activate at?

Either way, most of us are happy running 32 f 36r on our sportsbikes, and considering the guys I ride with love a hoon or 2, we most definitely check pressures before going out on rides anyway.

Just realised they were alloy. Beware of galvanic corrosion between the valve and whatever that thing is made out of! Ride it in winter much without cleaning the bike, or removing the valve cover, you may find that that it's electrochemically bonded the threads! Much the reason why I also don't bother running bling alloy valve covers and just use plastic! It's inert and does a good job keeing the air in.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 15 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

They aren't configurable , you just buy the one which has a trigger point suitable for your bike.

So if you pick one with a trigger point just below your desired pressure (when cold), if it turns red something definitely is wrong.

I'm not necessarily promoting these or arguing with opposition, was just curious to get opinions.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 15 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

£8 for 2.

I'd be astonished if they were in any way accurate, but then again it's easy to go very flat without noticing, so why not?
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 15 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waste of time. Everyone knows that a wheel will always stop where you can't see the valve.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 15 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Tot wrote:
just use plastic! It's inert and does a good job keeing the air in.


The valve cap isn't to keep air in. It's to keep dirt out of the valve itself.

You can get metal ones with a rubber seal that are capable of retaining the air (like one I have, that incorporates a valve core key) but I wouldn't exactly use it as my primary air retention device.

The 'alert' type are pretty useful in their own way though. A fair few bike tyres these days can hold up a bike and not look flat without any pressure over atmospheric at all in them.

A quick glance when you go out to get on the bike (if it's somewhere visible) would be better than wobbling about like a spanner as you get to the end of your road...

I always have a glance over (to check both wheels are there, that the handlebars are still attached etc.) but I don't actually check pressures all that often.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 15 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone gave me a set of 4 a few years ago, because they were the wrong pressure for his car.

They did a pretty good job of deflating the tyres over a period of about a week when the bike was garaged - and got nicked shortly after whilst parked up.

I threw the other two away.
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 15 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be worried about them flattening my tyres. I assume they open the valve to be able to read the pressure.

I'll stick with cheapo plastic caps for now. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 15 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omega wrote:
I'd be worried about them flattening my tyres. I assume they open the valve to be able to read the pressure.

I'll stick with cheapo plastic caps for now. If it ain't broke don't fix it.


Correct, and there in lies the problem. You are relying on the seal between the indicator and the tvalve housing, not the valve.
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 15 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

pdg wrote:

You can get metal ones with a rubber seal that are capable of retaining the air


Just make sure you put some grease on them.... Or they end up bonding themselves to the stem and the only way to get them off is to cut the valve off.....
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PostPosted: 00:02 - 16 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above, they keep the valve open and can leak/explode/fall apart while riding.

I usually bounce the front and rear while looking at tires before moving off. This confirms they have some air in them to about the same accuracy as these caps.
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PostPosted: 08:09 - 16 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The weight of them can bend valves at high speeds. If the valve is old and weak they can and have snapped causing the tyre to deflate.
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 16 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

tyre pressures show on the dash Whistle

seem pretty accurate, put air in the tyres on Friday, checked against gauge, sensors and forecourt machine
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 16 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudshark wrote:
tyre pressures show on the dash Whistle


What bike has that?
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 16 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

b422063 wrote:
Mudshark wrote:
tyre pressures show on the dash Whistle


What bike has that?


My Trophy has remote tyre pressure read out.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 16 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

b422063 wrote:
Mudshark wrote:
tyre pressures show on the dash Whistle


What bike has that?

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PostPosted: 10:34 - 16 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Tot wrote:
Beware of galvanic corrosion between the valve and whatever that thing is made out of! Ride it in winter much without cleaning the bike, or removing the valve cover, you may find that that it's electrochemically bonded the threads!


Had that on my car, nearly tore the valve stem off trying to remove them Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 16 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:


Just make sure you put some grease on them.... Or they end up bonding themselves to the stem and the only way to get them off is to cut the valve off.....


Some metal valve caps are plated brass and don't seem to get stuck on.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 16 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:


Just make sure you put some grease on them.... Or they end up bonding themselves to the stem and the only way to get them off is to cut the valve off.....


Some metal valve caps are plated brass and don't seem to get stuck on.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 16 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read a post on advrider where a guy had one rapid deflate while out on the bike. He didn't crash, but said he came close. He checked the other valve and the plastic appeared to have yellowed with age and turned brittle.
That was a few years ago and it might have been a one off, but it put me off the idea.
I like the in- tyre ones, but can't bring myself to spend the money they cost.
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 16 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had a problem with using one of these badboys before I go out!

https://www.binbin.net/photos/generic/tyr/tyre-pressure-gauge-key-ring.jpg

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PostPosted: 22:53 - 16 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
£8 for 2.

I'd be astonished if they were in any way accurate, but then again it's easy to go very flat without noticing, so why not?


Or go to Ebay and get two for £3.45

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/381151378058?clk_rvr_id=781785630599&item=381151378058&lgeo=1&clk_rvr_id=781785630599&rmvSB=true&vectorid=229508&rmvSB=true
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 16 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seem to vaguely remember a pre-ride checklist acronym told us on CBT day..was it BOLTS??
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Must remember to BOLt more often, or at least kick the tyres!!!
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 16 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just realise that you are adding weights to your wheels, just like the ones they use to balance your wheels when you get a new tyre, so you need to get your wheels re-balanced.
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