115-130bhp Bike

[Aspire]

Got a speed four at the mo, its fast enough etc except just want some more grunt. The figure stated isn't set in stone just a guestimate I suppose.

I am thinking 929 blade with straight bars. My rational is it should have around 120bhp, will be a decent step up but not ott like 150+bhp. It should have the same characteristics as my S4 just a bit more grunt.

I have thought about Tuono & Gen 1 Fazer both seem good options to.

My S4 has rentals and its comfy, only little gripe is foot pegs are a little high causing discomfort but nothing too bad.

Budget would be about £2-2.5k

[Fisty]

TL1000S, spend the remaining 1k on track days.
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[RhynoCZ]

Don't go 929, crappy DFi. 954 or anything else would be better choice.

EDIT: Get a sports bike, 600cc, 750cc, 1000cc, that will be like sitting on a rocket in comparison with that triumph you've got. Sports engines are tuned differently. If that will feel slow, get shorter final drive gear ratio, then get back here and tell us about your brown code moment.
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[Irezumi aka Reuben]

GSXR750, RSV Mille.
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[wristjob]

if you want straight bars then fz1 or fazer if you want some fairing.
quoted power is more than you say you want but in real life they do 600cc torque under 8k rpm (ok its a bit more but it feels like nothing)then its all smash and grab after that.
oh and the second hand price has just crashed so cheap as chips

[BigDan1190]

You're going for the wrong engine if you want more grunt, have you tried the speed triple instead of the speed four? 128bhp, but more torque than the S4.

[temeluchus]

Speed triple?
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[stevo as b4]

Your current speed four is a good all rounder and nice handler too.

Your logic is flawed however in trying to set yourself a bhp limit/range and then try to find bikes to fit your self imposed criteria/limitations.

An 80bhp bike, 115bhp, 150bhp,200bhp bike will all be awesome and fun if you pick the right bikes. Your trying to reduce the number of bikes available to you to narrow down your choice, based on a silly little bhp critera, when you should be judging potential bikes for how awesome they are for your needs, not capacity or how many horses live in the engine.

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[chris-red]

Has said do look to the horses.

Gearing and torque is what it is about.

I also have a Speed Four and a TDM900,

As standard the TDM has 88 (claimed) bhp the S4 98.

Both my bikes have air filters cans and remaps. however the S4 has ~18k miles the TDM 75k.

It's safe to say the TDM is at least 10BHP down. However it is much more Grunty, it has 90nm of torque compared to the S4's 70nm, it makes all it power much lower in the revs than the Speed Four and as such feels faster for day to day riding.
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[chickenstrip]

I'll just stick to what I (think I) know, and that's the Fazers. If it's lower rev stomp you want, go for the earlier FZS1000. And it still has enough of a kick higher up to keep you entertained when you feel the need. Downsides: heavier, less flickable, standard rear shock is crap (but a good replacement transforms the bike), EXUP valve servicing (although I've had no problems). A brilliant and capable all-rounder nevertheless.

FZ1 is more sports orientated, lighter but revvier, more modern spec. I do know of one that will fit your budget (just) but the suspension will possibly require a rethink on this particular one, due to previous owner mods. Mostly, outside of your budget though, but good value can still be had. Not so comfortable for long distance work, although plenty of folk manage just fine.
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[garth]

Wasn't fussed by the TL1000S I rode, and it's pretty much the polar opposite of an S4 characteristic wise.

What about something like a Z1000...?
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[Nick 50]

For your budget you should be able to get a pretty decent 03/04 Tuono.

I had one and they are an absolutely cracking bike, you wouldn't be disappointed and they sound awesome with a decent can on.


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[bikertomm]

2004 636 would be my choice!
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[Aspire]

z1000 is a good mention!

636 is another but can't do the riding position (2 herniated discs)

TBH its Tuono or blade (straight bars) in my head. Just need to find a friend who has one who we let me have a go

[andys675]

1050, speed, tiger or sprint

don't go for 955, 1050's have mikuni injection and japanese ecu, 955's have french crap ecu same as renault
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[stevo as b4]

Silly logic again IMO, thinking that taking a CBR929RR and removing fairing and putting on straight bars will make for the ideal riding position and ideal bike.

You should be able to get a std bike that has the kind of riding position you like/want feel comfy with, and then mod it to suit your taste if required. Trying to make a fully faired sportsbike more comfortable and usable by buggering around with ripping bits off and fitting different bars, is only 1/2 a job and doesn't change either the compromised nature of sports bikes, or the rest of riding position, in terms of footpeg height, knee to tank distance, reach and position of the footrests front/back along the bike.

Add to all this when you remove the fairing on a sportsbike, there's a lot of other mods needed to make it more useful, a new lighting solution, some way to tidy up/hide the wiring/clocks etc. Then you'll want lower gearing as top speed will be less and drag will be increased. If it's a Ram-air bike you need to do something with this, as ripping out the ram-air ductwork will really fuck up the fuelling etc.

[stinkwheel]

Try riding the bike you have with the throttle wide open all the time. You'll probably find it has enough horsepower, you're just not using it properly.
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[Ste]

You want a new bike for the sake of it, therefore get whatever it is that takes your fancy rather than telling yourself that you want something with more "grunt".

Or, down gearing your S4 might give you the characteristics that you're wanting.