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PostPosted: 17:07 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Riding in January and February Reply with quote

Are weather conditions worse in the UK in January/February than they are in say November/December? I've never really paid attention to which months are colder, because I've never really had a reason to care about the weather.

I'm asking cause this is my first winter as a biker so I've never rode through a winter before and dunno if I should pack it in before weather starts getting very shit.

Just looked at the weather forecast for the next week and they predict snow and sub-zero temperatures down here in london. Thumbs Down Hopefully that isn't a recurring theme in coming weeks.

If it gets any colder I'm considering doing the sensible thing and putting the bike away until it gets warmer, but I bloody hate public transport (only realistic alternative) and have places I need to be all the time.

tl;dr is it gonna keep gettin colder? is it inevitable that the weather will stop me riding at some point in jan-feb?


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PostPosted: 17:09 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Re: Riding in January and February Reply with quote

[quote="Meef"]
tl;dr is it gonna keep gettin colder?
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Yes
[quote="Meef"]is it inevitable that the weather will stop me riding at some point in jan-feb?


No.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

"they predict snow and sub-zero temperatures"

Don't worry, it won't snow when the temperature is below zero. Razz
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
"they predict snow and sub-zero temperatures"

Don't worry, it won't snow when the temperature is below zero. Razz


You get to learn mad skillz on sheet ice instead Thumbs Up

I rode the Varadero in the ice and snow last year it was both fun and educational, still debating if I'm going to man up and risk it with the Fazer as the weather worsens, when there is a perfectly capable Jeep on the driveway.
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Re: Riding in January and February Reply with quote

Meef wrote:
Are weather conditions worse in the UK in January/February than they are in say November/December?


Yep. We've only had one 'cold' day down here so far this month.

tl;dr is it gonna keep gettin colder? is it inevitable that the weather will stop me riding at some point in jan-feb?[/quote]

It's usually coldest in January/February, so yes, it's going to get a lot colder. Whether you can cope with it depends on what gear you have and how far you're going to travel in it. Winter gloves or bar muffs would be a minimum I guess if you're going to be riding more than 10-15 minutes (in the dry) or you're going to start getting very painful hands. A snorkel/snood/buff or whatever you want to call it will keep the draughts out of your neck.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Re: Riding in January and February Reply with quote

Meef wrote:
they predict snow and sub-zero temperatures down here in london. Thumbs Down Hopefully that isn't a recurring theme in coming weeks.

So snow in London.. I guess that will be 2 flakes Laughing
Sub zero... -1 then.

Up north. So far in Nov & Dec my car has only shown a minus temp twice...
And the press have predicted snow about half a down times. Yet none seen....

Ignore predictions. Just stick your head out of the window and take it from there. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty prepared for winter in terms of keeping warm on longer rides, got bar muffs, thick gloves, snood, scarf, lots of layers etc. Comfort definitely isn't the issue Laughing

I was more worried about this:
nashgt wrote:
sheet ice


and other atrocities that might appear as it gets colder.

I'm usually riding every day around 1 hour as a minimum need for transport, more interested in the risk factor of crashing lol.

Typically that's a few back roads then majority is dual carriageway at 50mph with some main roads.
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

London doesn't get too bad generally.

If it gets icy though stay off two wheels and suffer public transport for a few days. It's just not worth it the risk, doesn't gain you any man-points with the nurses in A&E.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meef wrote:

Typically that's a few back roads then majority is dual carriageway at 50mph with some main roads.


Quiet roads are fine, just take care.
Its the major routes that are plagued by idiots in their warm tin boxes. That do not realise just what its like outside , so continue to drive like a hot summers day.. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snow is more likely later in the winter or even early spring.
By February the increased power of the sun and daylength often dries the road surfaces quicker, even if there's snow on the fields and conditions can be quite good for riding.
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:

Quiet roads are fine, just take care.
Its the major routes that are plagued by idiots in their warm tin boxes. That do not realise just what its like outside , so continue to drive like a hot summers day.. Twisted Evil


Yeah noted haha Laughing

I've noticed after each ride my chicken strips are ever increasing in size, seems I have less and less trust in my tyres as it gets colder. So I'm already probably being a pussy being a bit too careful, and it's not even got icy yet! Better safe than sorry Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its been crappy here for a while now (Glasgow). I stopped using the bike in October time because she blew over and got wrecked.

Have to say, Jan and Feb tend to be the coldest whilst Nov and Dec tend to be wetter. I actually preferred the cold to the wet when riding - besides the salt on the roads.

I've given up on riding in the winter now though. The salt destroys the bike and the cold removes the fun.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

In London, main roads generally have clear tyre tracks even in snow, if you don't mind the amount of salt involved.

Any road that's not e.g. a red route will probably have compacted ice in the tyre grooves.

I wouldn't mind going out on a bike with a low centre of gravity, easy to hold up. A cheap 125 scooter, for example. Have done in the past on a Vity.

I wouldn't risk it on a bike you can't afford to drop, probably more than once.
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm definitely can't afford to drop my bike atm, but ACF50 protects against salt right?
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

totalllama82 wrote:
I actually preferred the cold to the wet when riding .

The salt destroys the bike and the cold removes the fun.


Likewise I'll take cold over wet any day, the salt does knacker the bike if left uncared for, mine gets a good clean once a week and I keep a closer eye on the state of the chain that I would do in the warmer months
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

snow here out on my scoot for first time one thing i did learn was to take it steady on islands even a little 125cc scooter kicks ass end out very easy
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meef wrote:
Hmm definitely can't afford to drop my bike atm, but ACF50 protects against salt right?



Acf50 is the daddy.
Best thing to do in regards to riding this time of year is to judge the road conditions yourself.if you think it looks dodgy don't ride.if you are riding stay away from anything that looks shiny Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 21:21 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meef wrote:

I've noticed after each ride my chicken strips are ever increasing in size, seems I have less and less trust in my tyres as it gets colder. So I'm already probably being a pussy being a bit too careful, and it's not even got icy yet! Better safe than sorry Thumbs Up


Yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about those chicken strips - appropriate riding for the time of year innit?

Perfect illustration here: Shocked
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 26 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say down here in London and the south east is probably the best place to be able to ride year round - tonight is a prime example: 100 miles away in Lincolnshire they have a couple of inches of snow, yet here in Kent it's just raining very hard.

I'd say I'll probably be riding right through winter unless we get some proper snow, and let's face it, that normally equates to a day of snow then a day of sludge then back to normal.
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spent 8 years on the bike every day of the year, I came off on ice and snow a few times and learned a few good lessons number one being..... only tw@s ride a bike every day of the year.
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PostPosted: 01:03 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im' in a similar position, as in, only having a bike to get about on, otherwise it's a case of public transport. **shudder**

Basically, you just have to take it on a day by day basis. I've ridden in medium to heavy morning frost before now, but only because the roads got worse the further I travelled and it was a case of "well, I've come this far so I'll carry on". Personally though, I wouldn't recommend it on a faired bike, as one drop will cost you £££'s.

If there's snow or ice then it's a no no for me but, if I had an old naked winter hack to use, I'd give it a whirl, cautiously of course.

If your chicken strips are getting bigger at this time of year, I'd say it's because you are correctly riding to the conditions and that's a good thing. Thumbs Up

As for ACF50, cover your bike in the stuff (except your brakes of course ). Leave it on over the winter and don't bother washing your bike because you'll just end up having to re-apply it, plus you'll also be wasting your time as the bike will be filthy again after next ride. It may look a mess after a few weeks but, when the weather improves and you give it a good wash, the bike will look like new again. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:15 - 27 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last two years i rode through winter bar days of ice and snow. After it cost £1800 to fix only the front fairings when it got knocked oer in a carpark I wouldnt risk it. Town/City centres tend to stay warmer. Watch out riding outwith the city as shade can keep areas of road icy while the sun has completely cleared and dried the rest.
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