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 Posted: 22:59 - 21 Jan 2015 Post subject: Throttle won't snap back properly. |
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Discovered this just after putting on some heated grips, I think I fucked the cable up by twisting the throttle the wrong way (past the closed position) while twisting the grips into place.
Something felt like it snapped and the throttle wouldn't return at all, but when I opened up the housing the close cable had just slipped off the side of the throttle tube thing and was snagging between the throttle tube and the plastic housing.
Put the cable back in place and screwed it back up. Now instead of the throttle snapping immediately back to closed position upon release, it returns slowly.
So then a friend and I checked the old cables, one of them appeared to be warped (the close cable) so we replaced both cables that came in a pair. Still the throttle closes slowly.
The cables don't seem to be snagging on anything. They've been adjusted/tightened properly by my mate and the throttle works properly but it just closes slowly.
Lubed the handlebar/throttle tube. Lubed cables. Lubed the housing.
Suspected the cables might be snagged somewhere but they weren't catching on anything or being squeezed by anything.
Tried pulling the open cable and when releasing it, it snaps back. When its on the throttle tube and I twist it, it doesn't snap back but does it slowly.
Tube is lubed, every fucking thing is lubed and nothing is snagging. My actual throttle thing works on it's own without cables too.
Can't figure out what's causing it, two new cables connected properly and its still causing a problem.
The cables DID feel like they were snagging on something at some points (when we were moving the throttle tube about playing with the position to see if that effected it, which it did) but couldn't see where it was snagging, might have to take the tank off.
I have aftermarket lowered handlebars which could affect the position of the throttle cables, this could be causing it despite them being tensioned properly?
Thinking about taking it to a mechanic now cause we spent two days trying to figure it out. |
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 Posted: 23:42 - 21 Jan 2015 Post subject: Re: Throttle won't snap back properly. |
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| Raffles wrote: |
Take your throttle grip apart and remove the grease that you applied to the handlebar and the handle grip. These parts should be left dry or lubricated with a silicone based product. |
Well we tested before applying any lube to the cables and it was the same slow return. Then we lubed it to see if that'd fix it, again slow return.
So it can't be the lube causing the problem because we tried with and without. Cables were not pre-lubed. |
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I apologise for any confusion that may have been caused by the post editing that occurred during the Op's most recent post
I am, however, still unsure whether or not your reference to lubrication refers to the cables or the throttle grip. ____________________ A good loser will always be a loser. |
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Either you pushed it on too far, so is snagging on the bar end. Or the bar end is tight against the grip. ____________________ Just because my bike was A DIVVY, does not mean i am...... |
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But your heated grip may be slightly longer than you old grip and catching on the bar ends (that a aren't there ) ____________________ Honda CB600F Hornet 2013 -> Kawasaki Z1000SX ABS Tourer 2015 |
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 Posted: 08:57 - 22 Jan 2015 Post subject: |
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Bike is a write off, I'll give you 5 ponds for it if the tank's full.
InB4 Paddy.
| Meef wrote: | Tried pulling the open cable and when releasing it, it snaps back. |
Right, that's not the problem.
So either it's the throttle grip sticking, or the return/close cable is sticking.
If you disconnect both cables, does the throttle grip rotate completely freely?
What about the close/return cable when you disconnect that and pull it on its own?
| Meef wrote: | My actual throttle thing works on it's own without cables too |
What does? The throttle body, down at the engine? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| Rogerborg wrote: |
If you disconnect both cables, does the throttle grip rotate completely freely?
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Throttle grip rotates completely freely when disconnected, no snagging/friction.
| Rogerborg wrote: |
What about the close/return cable when you disconnect that and pull it on its own?
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The return cable moves freely too when disconnected.
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What does? The throttle body, down at the engine? |
Yeah the throttle body, forgot what it was called
| mudcow007 wrote: |
Can you turn the throttle with the cables (disconnected from carbs)
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Yeah, when they're disconnected from throttle body and attached to tube I don't feel snagging or friction. Same goes for attached at throttle body and not attached at throttle tube handlebar grip thingie.
| mudcow007 wrote: |
oh an have you got bar end weights?
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Nope
The incredibly strange part is that all parts work individually or semi connected, but when the whole thing goes together this problem occurs, I'm 100% missing one bloody detail.
I'm starting to wonder if the problem could be when it's all connected up and the throttle is turned, the close cable must be getting pinched by something? The part that doesn't add up with that though is that it wasn't getting pinched when the throttle cable was disconnected from the throttle body but attached at the handlebar end.
Also another problem with this is I've tried it while varying the tension on the cables, from slack to tight.. so the idea that it could be too tight and making the cable move and get pinched doesn't add up either. |
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| Meef wrote: | Throttle grip rotates completely freely when disconnected, no snagging/friction.
The return cable moves freely too when disconnected.
Yeah, when [the cables are] disconnected from throttle body and attached to tube I don't feel snagging or friction. Same goes for attached at throttle body and not attached at throttle tube handlebar grip thingie. |
Then it's goblins.
| Meef wrote: | I'm starting to wonder if the problem could be when it's all connected up and the throttle is turned, the close cable must be getting pinched by something? |
No, it's definitely goblins.
Offer is now 4 ponds, goblins are hell to shift. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I know borg, it sounds bloody impossible right, that's why I was actually debating taking it to a mechanic.
Literally mfw putting all the fairings back on after trying for hours.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 5 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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