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| evoboy |
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 evoboy World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 19:22 - 17 Jan 2015 Post subject: Abandoned Bike. |
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Dont normally post threads but anyway.
I have a Speedfight scooter that has been sitting in my workshop for 6 months now. I've spoken to the owner 4 times and 4 times he has said he will collect. The last call I had with him was over 3 months ago.
The number does not seem to exist anymore so I am unable to contact them.
There is a bill outstanding on the scooter. It came in as a 'put this through an MOT' job that turned into a £300-400 bill to make it roadworthy. I advised the owner to pay the rather small bill for the work I had already done, cut his losses and buy another scooter. This was agreed and he said collection would be within the next week....
Is there anything I can do to find out the address of the registered keeper without contacting the DVLA? After speaking with them once before over this, I was just told to 'wait for the owner to make contact' which is of no help what so ever. ____________________ Suzuki GT250 x7------- Fazer 600------CB250RS------Aprilia Rally 70----- Bandit 600
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Apply for a log book, the registered owner will get a letter, then they will contact you. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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Of course, having a V5 in your name only makes you the registered keeper, not the legal owner, although as Pete said, the letter asking for permission for a change from the DVLA, might elicit a response from the owner.
You could always get shot of the thing and keep £100 and the invoice for the work in a drawer; if the owner ever shows up, tell him it got nicked, then show him the cash (from the insurance payout ) and the invoice and offer him the difference. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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| evoboy wrote: | | Shaft wrote: | Of course, having a V5 in your name only makes you the registered keeper, not the legal owner, although as Pete said, the letter asking for permission for a change from the DVLA, might elicit a response from the owner.
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So even if i had the V5 and the bike in my possession does that not still make me the legal owner?
I'm not overly bothered about the bill being paid, I just want the thing gone with no comeback on me. Which is why forcing a response from the owner is the best way in my mind. |
Nope, as I'm sure you know, it clearly says across the top of every V5C, "THIS DOCUMENT IS NOT PROOF OF OWNERSHIP".
I've also been in this position a few times and I've tried, unsuccessfully, to get a definitive answer as to when the property can legally become yours, in lieu of payment.
You might think it's after a certain amount of time, or when the bill (including storage charges) far outweighs the value of the property, but there doesn't seem to be anything in black and white.
As for legally scrapping it, in theory this should no longer be possible without a V5, but I'm sure there are still unscrupulous scrappies out there. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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I don't know anything about it, but surely putting your name to it in the form of a v5 makes it more problematic later on?
I think you can apply for the details via a 2.50 charge for these sort of circumstances. If not, ring local police station as you think you might have been given a stolen bike to work on, they'll check it and get in contact with the owner for you. He'll collect it or he won't. If he doesn't you've got a record and can flog it on ebay for whoever gives you 50 quid to take it away.
This is just speculation on my part though. I wouldn't like to put my name to a shitheap that some twat abandoned on me. ____________________ Previous: GSF600, FZR600 x2, ZXR750, XT600 Tenere, CB125, CZ125, ETZ 250, ER5, CCM R30, DRZ400, RF600x4, RF900x2, GS500, VTR1000F, 640 SMC, CB250 NIGHTHAWK, GT550x3, GPX750 TE610, CB500, X11x2, SV650, ZING 125, TL1000R,CB250 Superdream, CBR1100XX |
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A friend of mine did something similar once. He owned a storage place and one of the containers had been abandoned with debts racking up. He went to small claims court and got a court order to be able to open it up and everything inside was declared as his in lieu of payment.
There was a motorbike inside too.
This doesn't help you too much as you don't want the thing, but that's legally how you go about owning it. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 54 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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