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Kris
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 05 Feb 2015    Post subject: Company Motorcycles? Reply with quote

Any accounting gurus able to clear up a few things?

I see that Motorcycles are classed as plant and machinery, and can be purchased under something called AIA/Annual Investment Allowance of up to £50k.

If I keep it as a purely business vehicle (i.e. no personal use) it appears I can also claim back the VAT too, plus all running costs, maintenance etc.

Does anyone have experience of this? My accountant is pretty negative about company vehicles but I believe they have only dealt with cars before, which are treated differently.

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PostPosted: 12:05 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on what you are using the bike for - business transport, or as a revenue source (such as hiring it out, or using it as a movie prop).

I was self-employed when I bought my bike in 2008, and could have claimed for it as a legitimate business expense as a vehicle - but found it more 'tax-efficient' to claim for using the car instead Wink

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PostPosted: 12:30 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

So a Ducati Desmodecici could be made as a tax claimable expense!
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taught2BCautious wrote:
It depends on what you are using the bike for - business transport, or as a revenue source (such as hiring it out, or using it as a movie prop).

I was self-employed when I bought my bike in 2008, and could have claimed for it as a legitimate business expense as a vehicle - but found it more 'tax-efficient' to claim for using the car instead Wink

If you feel your accountant is giving poor advice, get a new accountant!


The rules were apparently changed in 2009 and company motorbikes are treated as a piece of equipment, rather than a car.

It'd be solely used for business travel between work, which as far as I can see means the VAT can be claimed back and there is no 'benefit-in-kind' tax to pay personally.

My accountant just needs to read the new rules (which I've sent her) and hopefully we can have a chat about them but it's always nice to speak to someone with experience of doing things this way first.. Smile
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

2009 is quite a while back.

I'd be considering another if they're 6 years out of date
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be worth considering the option of claiming a fixed-rate mileage allowance, rather than claiming back VAT - but that depends on specific circumstances as well as current HMRC guidelines.

In the 2008-2009 tax year, I was sub-contracting to a company in London, and got paid a fixed amount per journey, which included parking and congestion charge, so a bike seemed the obvious way to go for me at the time, as the expenses were the same if you used a car, the tube, a bicycle, or walked.

The expenses paid for the bike within 4 months, and I still use the bike for work now, whenever possible.

I know that at the time, this was the best way to go for me - but it's still worth asking about all your options.

I have even heard about people thinking about claiming mileage for a car and actually using a bike - but I don't know anyone who would do such a thing Whistle
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taught2BCautious wrote:


I know that at the time, this was the best way to go for me - but it's still worth asking about all your options.

I have even heard about people thinking about claiming mileage for a car and actually using a bike - but I don't know anyone who would do such a thing Whistle


Well yes I currently claim mileage when I take *my* bike but only the 24p per mile for first 10,000 miles as per HMRC rules. This also means I pay for all the running costs, plus insurance and tax.

As company plant, maintenance costs and fuel bills can be claimed back through the company receipts. This is the advantage I'm looking for, as well as reducing the corporation tax bill Wink .

I'm not prepared to claim car mileage when not using a car though - bit too naughty in my eyes!
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