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Self driving cars aren't going to be mainstream for a very, very, very,very, very, very,very, very, very,very, very, very,very, very, very,very, very, very long time. You'll probably be dead before they are. ____________________ Honda CBF125 ➝ NC700X
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They are testing these in Milton Keynes between the train station and the city centre.
They are going to be a scream on a saturday night with pissed up girls and boys doing everything from shagging to throwing up in them
They will also run on the pedestrian areas for the duration of the test.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31364441
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Maybe early days, but they already drive far better than your average Addison Lee taxi...
I say, roll on. Can't be any worse than the majority of drivers out there. At least you know they'll indicate before a manoeuvre, they won't pull any daft and spontaneous lane twitching because the neighbouring lane is travelling 0.5mph faster and you know they'll always look both ways before pulling out! ____________________ Beginner Biker Adventures Blog
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| daemonoid wrote: | | BigShow wrote: | They'll never become the norm. Human beings are still vastly superior in every way. But that's irrelevant, how much do councils and the government make each year from speeding drivers and parking fines etc? You really think they are going to give up that cash cow? |
Humans, are terrible at driving... There's the fact that they're easily distracted, they have limited concentration spans, they require hours of training before they're up to the minimum standard and then years before they're up to average. Even using the pioneering tech that's in test at the moment we can state objectively that Google cars are better than the average driver when measured from the accident per mile point of view.
The one thing that keeps humans in the race so far is that we're much better at interpreting incomplete information.
Don't kid yourself that the parking and speeding are central to the plans... It's the cash rolling in that matters, they'll tax other things more instead. |
yup - give it 20 years and our grandkids will be shocked when we tell them we used to control our own cars on the road.
Personally, I can't wait - I'd much rather trust a computer than some tosspot driver who's pissed/old/half-blind/stoned etc. ____________________ Bike history: Suzuki GSXF600, BMW F650, Honda Varadero, Suzuki V-Strom, Kawasaki Versys
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Can we start with Taxi's and Bus's and see how that goes first?
If a huge Success then I would campaign to extend it to all vehicles that have four circles on the grille or a Quattro because your worth it badge!  |
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Self driving cars will not catch on. Much the same way we still have air plane pilots.
The reason is liability and insurance.
Think about a car maker their cars are mass produced to the lowest bidder who will most likely cut corners.
It is a bigger question of who is liable when it goes wrong?
Right now the nut behind the wheel is liable, yet if we put an AI in charge, what happens when it goes wrong? Is it the car maker or the individual?
The opt out / easy method is to still make the 'operator' liable. Will the 'operator' have to be awake at all times and focusing on the road for when something goes wrong?
Because if so then although it may well self drive the fact it needs to be constantly monitored kinda negates a large part of its autonomy. I mean computers never go wrong right?
Kind of like air planes no doubt the 777 or Airbus can take off and land without the pilot doing anything after setting the program but they are there for redundancy as stuff goes wrong. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Computerised self drive cars powered by windows.....where would you like to crash today!  |
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What about insurance? the car would need to be insured rather than the person. If this happens, can it be applied to normal vehicles. I think it'd be better.
Self driving bike could be interesting
Safety. Anything can be safe if its slow enough. These self driving cars will be slow. Think how much hesitation a learner or granny has at a simple junction, multiply by 1000. Once moving, Im sure they will do the speed limit on motorway, but I predict a major blockage of B roads Will the owner be able to set the speed above the speed limit? what if the speed limit changes which they keep talking about. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 325 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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