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veroom
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PostPosted: 02:53 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: GSXR 600 K2 - challenging "too good to be true" Reply with quote

So I think I have found my dream bike.. saw it loved it, heard it and loved it more.. but should I buy it ?

Price is just over 2k as the first thing we did was find an agreeable price as it was shown at 2.5k and then as I was in the neighourhood, went to view it in the dark with a view to meeting the owner more than judging the bike. To be honest I was itching to see it.

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/gK4AAOSw1ZBUvBJd/$_57.JPG

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/gZEAAOSw1ZBUvBJj/$_57.JPG

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/uKMAAOSwzrxUvBJy/$_57.JPG

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/UDgAAOSwa39UvBJ6/$_57.JPG

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/~uYAAOSw-W5UvBKA/$_57.JPG

From the pics, you get a good idea of cosmetics, from the video taken tonight, you get a limited bit of extra insight. A daytime viewing is planned for sunday but the owner knows I am beyond interested.

We talked for 2.5 hours over tea, nice chap, but I am not an expert in mechanicals and sounds, beyond checking the discs and other obvious things.

The bike is for myself to keep but with alot of forethought to a charity bike ride planned to cover 4,000 miles across europe and back later in the year. I also haven't passed my test yet so the obvious will happen store it for a while until I do and then take a very mature view to getting used to the bike so you won't see me pulling a wheelie across the top of the forum or doing handbrake turns any time soon Razz I jest but have no interest in killing myself or putting a scratch on the fairing.. and will be quite angry at flies who happen to be in the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzZndurZy1s

At some stage on sunday I will be uploading a better vid but short of letting people see a vid and hearing it, inspecting what I am hoping can be advised to check over from a mechanic friend who I trust and lives too far away and hopefully any advise you folks may wish to add.

I 100% want the bike but want to be sure the bike is not too good to be true. I'm not fully qualified by any standard.

What to look for ?
What to listen for ?
At what rev range ?
Any other advice ?

HPI checks I can't afford at this point and I have seen some sites offering free checks but of what I have seen are very limited info but haven't yet tried it on this... will do though.

I dare say from all of this, you have some idea where I am in this purchase and if anyone can offer genuine help, I truly appreciate it after buying an nsr 125 recently only to get my fingers burnt 3 days later and the previous owner to have been a conman.. (you can read about that on another thread I have here and I must attend to that thread soon)

I have been busy making doe to move on and got some surprise funds come my way meaning I can indeed buy this bike now...

But should I ?

you guys have been overly helpful on my other thread meaning I think you are a great bunch of lads and I know you will hold back nothing. Sadly I don't have a trusted mechanic in the immediate area and will if needed, (owner has consented to this) hold up a bit to get some more cash to even book an rac type check if that is possible.

Like a dog with two ****s but not gonna be stupid again. I got told off last time and learned my lesson..

Thanks in advance guys and guyettes.
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PostPosted: 04:07 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just do it. Nothing very severe ever goes wrong with gsxrs, and you've already wasted enough of this guys time. He's not your friend, he just wants your money.
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't say it is "too good to be true"

Slightly over prices if anything, I might pay just short of 2k for it if I wanted it.

I think it's clear to see someone at somepoint looked after it and it was their pride and joy although if you cannot afford a HPI check I would be worried as too how you can afford the bike?
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: GSXR 600 K2 - challenging "too good to be true" Reply with quote

I'd be wondering how he's intending to put fuel in the tank, or get his license for that matter.

veroom wrote:
went to view it in the dark [...] We talked for 2.5 hours [...] charity bike ride [...] I also haven't passed my test yet [...] HPI checks I can't afford

I dare say from all of this, you have some idea where I am in this purchase

I dare say it's the stage that will result in the bike being re-advertised with "NO MORE TIME WASTERS".

Are you seriously in the market for this bike? Are you actually in possession of the purchase price in real money, able to put it in the owner's hand, and then arrange transport to a secure location?

If so, then HPI it and if it runs and doesn't sound like a bag of spanners, have it.

If not, stop wasting your time, his time, and ours.

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PostPosted: 09:57 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't afford a fiver for a vehicle check? You can't afford the bike.

Why the rush anyway? Wait till you have a licence, it's not a rare bike and it's not an amazing price.
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those grips are a much more serious offence than riding without a license so only buy it if you're going to change the grips immediately.

You talked to the owner for two and a half hours and in that time he didn't catch onto the fact you're not a serious buyer? Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:

You talked to the owner for two and a half hours and in that time he didn't catch onto the fact you're not a serious buyer? Laughing


Guessing women so the 1st 2 hours was just blowing smoke up each others arses and swapping ironing tips. Last 1/2 hour would have been complimenting the paint job. (Has to be a chicks bike look at the gay swirly shit round the headlights).
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PostPosted: 10:34 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naff grips and Naff paint, if I was buying one I'd want the stock paintwork in good nick,whatever floats your boat.
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every time I buy a bike I think I bought my dream bike, for awhile. Razz

I would not give him/her 2,000 quid, the paint job is terrible, it's got ugly chinese rear view mirrors and the screen seems to be made for welding steel. The grips are, well, just no, and the turn signals are mental. The exhaust is an unfortunate mistake of the owner and the crash bungs with the mesh in the side panels look retarded.

Also, the front end seems to be from a newer GSXR, this should have had axial calipers. But, I might be mistaken there. I'm also not a fan of people, that take off/cut off the rear plate holder.

1,300 pounds would be my final offer.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

"DA"

Where are you based? Where is the bike based?
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pro tip - don't buy a bike that you can't ride. I did and it was hell seeing it sitting there while I waited for my holiday time off work. And why can't you afford a hpi check but think you can afford the bike?

Also it looks hella ugly, lop a grand off the price to banish the paint and stickers and mirrors and grips and that incredibly fugly seat.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Those grips are a much more serious offence than riding without a license so only buy it if you're going to change the grips immediately.

You talked to the owner for two and a half hours and in that time he didn't catch onto the fact you're not a serious buyer? Laughing


A few remarks about the serious buyer lol... The money is there, just about. I didn't remember the hpi check is only £5 which I can do.. so I went review hunting and ended up not knowing which one to use. Don't worry guys, I haven't been banned from ever having any more money, I'm just at the stage of having pennies over the agreed price. The owner knows I am a serious buyer. He respects that I am on the hunt to do my utmost to prevent buying a lemon after doing that already in recent months.

Some alarming comments about value and such here for me to consider... some more detail if possible would be awesome.

On the face of it, if I was stupid, I would hand over the cash but trying to do it better this time.

"1300 pounds would be my final offer" Shocked Thanks for the points to consider.

"Naff grips and naff paint" I'm 41 years old and have adored the RG/GSXR range from sling shot slab side days and do like all of the factory colour schemes. I am mindful of the paint job, why it has been done and there is a comment on here about the front end being changed which again is an alarm bell ringing. However if the paint job is a genuine choice and not part of a cat c/d repair, that's fine and I actually like it.

I have been window shopping for a good while now and find the price typical and in fact on the slightly lower side. The only ones I have seen lower are much higher mileage and much worse cosmetic condition.

I am so tempted to say I like the grips at this point but I love that you guys have taken time to give me some responses so I will seriously look at replacing them.

There's no immediate rush and the owner knows the sale is ready to happen except for the mechanical thumbs up. We have agreed the price or I will walk away.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: GSXR 600 K2 - challenging "too good to be true" Reply with quote

veroom wrote:
. I also haven't passed my test yet.


Pass it then look for bikes. Then post about large bikes and prices on a red/yellow/blue bike.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

veroom wrote:
The money is there, just about.

Cheque's in the post?

It's not like there's a shortage of tarted Gixxers around, so why the hurry to buy that one, now, before you can ride it? You'll be pissing away insurance and VED on it while it sits around, and you may find that you don't even enjoy riding it. I couldn't be doing with that position on any sort of charity jolly long trip.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going the unorthodox route of buying the bike and then going for my test. Also the bike IF purchased will be kept in secure storage. I am sure the gsxr is the bike I want already but is this the right one... that's what I need to know. The looks of the bike are to my taste.. I just need a mechanical thumbs up is all..
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

veroom wrote:
The owner knows I am a serious buyer. He respects that I am on the hunt to do my utmost to prevent buying a lemon after doing that already in recent months.


He has got to be gay??????

veroom wrote:
I just need a mechanical thumbs up is all


Then reveal your location and ask if someone will come look with you. You can't show a handful of photos and expect people to diagnose the mechanical condition of a bike.
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 14:08 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell us something about its service history.

Can you link us to the advert?

You say about how he respects you not wanting to buy a lemon, to me that sounds like something a professional lemon salesmen would say. Razz

Have you ridden any bike like that? Have you done some insurance quotes?
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bike is located in west brom nr birmingham

Sorry guys https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251798456030

Is he gay lol... haha

No I haven't rid a bike that powerful, my current bike, off the road now is an NSR 125.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hideous.

Why would you pay more for an ugly messed about with example than you would a standard, clean one.
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you know what service history it's got?

I wouldn't be in a rush to buy this particular bike given that you've not got a license yet, there's no shortage of GSXR600's to choose from and unfortunately there are plenty which are as tastefully modded as this one.
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Price seems high for what it is, seen a standard k1 20k miles for £1500 the other week...
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Do you know what service history it's got?

I wouldn't be in a rush to buy this particular bike given that you've not got a license yet, there's no shortage of GSXR600's to choose from and unfortunately there are plenty which are as tastefully modded as this one.


It has some service history although I didn't study it. Last night was more of an itching to go look at the bike as I was pretty much up the road from it just waiting for the chap to finish work... sunday was and still is the proper planned viewing however since I went last night took the vid, I thought I would come and chat with you guys about it and ask for opinions... the chap is very happy for me to take my time. I'm going with benefit of the doubt on any notion that he is just like all of us and wants a good home for his much loved bike as opposed to someone who has painted over cracks and looking free money. Hence this discussion and a phone call I just had with my trusted mechanic who is currently out of town. He will in the very least freely do as best as he can as he is one of the people at this stage hoping to do the charity run with us but his dad is very ill so whether he can do it is another thing... non-the-less he is also a very conscious man realising the importance and happy to support however he can.

These "hideous" type comments, I am happy with the looks of the bike and with full respect, not gonna be swayed in that regard. Although happy to hear it's not your cup of tea in the looks dept.

I have seen a k2 for 1800 on a forecourt with almost double the mileage, k1 a plenty with higher mileage even srads in this ball park. I'm happy with any of the K series, love the srad but it's too old and I prefer the k1+

Everyone who is saying things like £1300 or anything in that direction, feel free to find something that beats this on paper. And I do love the standard paint job.. kind of like the yellow/black too.

Trying my best to take this seriously, thanks for the responses guys, much appreciated.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

veroom wrote:
It has some service history

Laughing

That could mean pretty much anything.

It might not need anything doing to it for a good few thousand miles or it could frequently need work doing to it by your mechanic mate.
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