Missing VIN - Can't MOT My Bike

[Motorhate]

I have an XVS1100 which I bought last year and the MOT is due up. I dropped it off yesterday only to be told they couldn't find the VIN (Vehicle Identification Number). The bike has a custom front-end and I'm beginning to think they've removed the VIN plate when they did the front end. I have two previous MOTs from the bike and a V5 all with the VIN listed on them. Is there a way that I could get the VIN put onto the bike or could it be somewhere else on the frame ?
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[Fidge]

I don't see why you couldn't engrave it into the frame or put a sticker on it.

[P.]

You mean you didn't hit up ebay for a vin plate and number stamping

FWIW my CLR125 had its numbers ground off, I just paid the garage £20 to restamp it on the bare frame.

[Doovy]

https://etsyitemoftheday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/eviestoolemporium-letter-and-number-stamp-set.jpg
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[stinkwheel]

Should be stamped onto the headstock, even if the plate is missing it would be stamped underneath. Has the frame been chopped? Or is it just painted over?

If it's been chopped and has no VIN number, going through official channels will result in you having to do an MSVA test as a radically altered vehicle and, if you can't prove the age of the frame it's derived from, possibly a Q-plate.

As such, as others have said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/36-PC-LETTER-AND-NUMBER-PUNCH-SET-CARBON-STEEL-METAL-STAMP-SECURITY-MARKER-TOOL-/281535761563?pt=UK_Baby_BabyFeedingUtensils_EH&hash=item418cd6cc9b
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[stinkwheel]

Chances are there's a VIN on it somewhere.

You could ask the previous owner. Usually when they chop them, they keep the original headstock tube so it maybe it's just under a lot of paint you could chip off.

As I said before. VIN plate notwithstanding. They usually have the frame number directly stamped into the headstock tube. Have a really good look in that area with a good light. On most bikes it's on the right hand side or front of the headstock tube.

I cannot stress enough how much hassle sorting this out "officially" would cause. If the DVLA find out you have a chopped frame, you could very easily land up paying for it to be inspected then re-registered on a Q-plate.

If it was already chopped and inspected officially, there will be a frame number on it somewhere. Not necessarily on the headstock.

While illegal. I would be tempted to make sure there is one otherwise and take it somewhere else for its MOT (they can't have booked it on the system without the VIN)
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[Rogerborg]

[moonzoomer]

Vin should be stamped on the right hand side of the headstock according to the Yamaha service manual
https://www.werder.ee/Manual/XVS1100.pdf

[Triton Thrasher]

How can it be illegal to put a bike's own VIN number onto the frame?
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[P.]

[stinkwheel]

[Rogerborg]

[stinkwheel]

[Rogerborg]

That's an offence that OP is already committing on an ongoing basis though allegedly.

I'm wondering what offence he'd be committing by stamping a VIN on his imaginary bike. Because in practice it would make the RTA offence go away.

Perverting the course of justice might be a candidate.
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[Triton Thrasher]

[iooi]

[andyscooter]

Went to book an not the other day

Didn't take docs as was going to book in for another day

Got vin off the computer from somwere

Walked out hour later with new ticket

Didn't even give me an advisory for the brake pads as Itold him tthey were getting low and would be done at the weekend
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[Rogerborg]

[Ariel Badger]

I once owned a bike with three VIN numbers and everyone of them had a log book out on another bike so I never made it road legal.
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[Pete.]

[Accuhaler]

I've MOT'd bikes in the past with no/unledgable VIN on the frame/engine the tester just asked for either the old MOT or V5.

My MOT tester told me when I asked, IT doesn't make a difference for him, just might give you an headache if the fuzz wanna be A holes with you.

[Triton Thrasher]

[Rogerborg]

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