Talk to me about Deauvilles

[hazza]

I need a new bike out of necessity rather than want. I've been commuting on my SV650S for 18 months and it does it's job perfectly. It's not the fastest, not the best looking, not the most exciting but what it does do is use very little fuel, costs me pennies to insure and starts even on the coldest of mornings.

Iv'e took more on at work and consequently have started bringing more and more work home. I have a big rucksack that I've always used but this is now bursting at the seams with a third of the work I could actually do with taking home! I had a little look around online but luggage solutions (I'd like lockable, hard case panniers) don't seem to be an option for the SV. The ones I have seen seem to have been bastardised to fit and look as though they will constantly be in the way. 99% of my miles are commuting miles, which I do 12 months of the year.


I've had 10 years of cleaning, lubing and adjusting chains and I'm sick of them. I'd like to go to shaft drive or belt drive to keep things cleaner and easier for me. I'd also like a centre stand to make any maintenance easier and most importantly I need a luggage solution that will cope with allowing me to carry about 75 A4 folders of work home and not make the handling scary. Currently my back suffers trying to keep all of the weight central when turning.

The only bike that seems to fit my specs is an old Deauville. I don't want to spend much money as there is zero gain for me in having a shiny new bike that I'm not going to clean. It's a workhorse, I may want to do the occasional two up trip to Wales in the summer so something comfortable is going to be good too. I want cheap insurance and tax and something that can do around 50mpg. It doesn't need to be a speed machine but I do filter through the city so need a bit of power to beat the cages off the line. Budget is PX value of a decent nick 2007 SV650S K6 with 16,000 miles and maybe a few hundred on top. Anything better out there?
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[Jim Mc]

So on the topic of how much work you carry. In 2015 you are carrying around a rucksack full of paperwork, when you could be carrying around a USB thumb drive, or some other portable disk?

You should probably get a tank bag, there's a horror story on here of what can happen when a rucksack shoulder strap breaks.

[Oldie]

I've owned both the older 650 and the newer 700.

If buying again, I'd definitely go for the original as there are too many stories about final drive issues on the new model (basically an almost complete absence of moly on the splines due to poor quality control at the factory). My 700 was fine, and probably most are, but more and more problems are appearing and it's not that easy to whip off the rear wheel for a quick check when buying.

Anyway, the 650 is a fine bike and only let down by fuel pump (easy mod) and rectifier problems (first couple of years only).

Prices are now becoming sensible and you should get a good 2003 bike for £1750. Engines should handle well above 100k miles. Painting wheels and engine casings with hammerite smooth silver really tidy up a tired bike.

[hazza]

[pinkyfloyd]

The boss had 2 for work, Sold one. As Oldie said the 650 are the better models. They are what they are, dull but pretty much reliable shaft driven mile eaters.
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I've got a 650, it's dull but a great commuter. 60+ mpg on the motorway.

The side cases aren't that big but are quite useful, bigger lids are available. Headlight is crap.

[Rogerborg]

I can't think of a motorcycle that would suit better. Just to throw it out there, a midi/maxi scooter, e.g. Burgman 400, would also tick your boxes.
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[Oldie]

Ideally, find a post 2002 (combined abs) with the large panniers, although more for touring than commuting due to width. Foot and hand protectors are also worth looking for as they work well and are hard to source. For added comfort, the standard screen works well with a Heroblobs Aerotrim. I've not had a touring screen (don't like the look) but my set up was fine for 90mph autobahn riding.

[hazza]

[Iain.]

Hateful gutless things.

Just as the engine gets to the point where it feels like it might be about to do something interesting all the power drops off. They aren't that comfortable, the fairing isn't that good, the MPG wasn't anything special and it was ugly as sin.

Buy yourself a half faired 600 Bandit/Fazer/Hairnet put a DID ZVM-X chain on it and a Scottoiler touring kit, it'll be better to ride by a million miles, just as comfy, offer the same wind protection, it has a centrestand, loads of used luggage availible for peanuts, and given DID were offering those chains to wholesaler with a 50,000 mile warranty you won't get any greif with the chain. Especially with a scottoiler with a giant resevoir. Without a Scottoiler my chain diddn't require adjustment in the entire time I had it on the bike, including a trip round Spain.

I can't see any reason why you'd buy a dullville unless you've got the ghey and don't want to admit it. I mean fuck, you could just buy the DID chain, scottoiler and topbox for your SV and it too would do the job just as well as a dullville.

[hazza]

I commute 8 miles across a busy city. I have no interest in huge amounts of power I just want enough to beat the cars off the line at the lights. I get my kicks at weekends doing MTB.
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[Irezumi aka Reuben]

Beating most cars off the line is becoming an issue if you ride a Deauville. Lost of cars are now powerful enough (especially those big faux 4X4 AUDI's etc) to beat you off the line.

Two up depending on the size of you both the Deauville could struggle in certain area's. It would make it but I doubt it would be comfortable if either you or your partner are heavier than average.
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[Matt B]

[sidewinder]

Have you looked at 900 divvys? Cheap to buy reliable shaftdrive. Center stand and they usually have luggage to


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[Oldie]

The Divvy 900 is a good call. Slightly less weather protection but good enough. Faster, obviously, and another of my favourite bikes.

If you do go down that route, watch out for bikes with a ropey rear shock. Very hard to get a direct replacement although, as per the Divvy forum recommendation, I installed an early Fazer 600 (red one) and it was fine.

Centre stand failures are very common and hard to replace.

Otherwise a great, well built, bike that should easily see off 150,000 miles. Still a very under-rated motorcycle and cheap as chips.

Deauville or Divvy? Well, one is much more fun to ride than the other but for out and out commuting it's a close call.

[Polarbear]

I toured all round Europe with a mate on his 650 Deauville (me on my Goldwing).

His never missed a beat, cruised in the high 90's on motorways and had decent weather protection and good luggage capacity.

I really couldn't fault it but saying that, I had a 900 divvy in the past and have to agree that is a really good shout as well.
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[WD Forte]

ST1100 Pan European mebbe?
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[hazza]

I had thought about one but I think it may be a bit 'much' for an 8 mile dash across town. The fastest I get to is about 50 on a half mile stretch of dual carriage way. Also I'd end up paying loads on insurance I would hazzard a guess and more tax!
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[pepperami]

Two of my friend have both got Deauville`s.
both say the same thing " absolutely no trouble, mile eaters, not to exciting"
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[hazza]

It's come as a surprise but insurance is only around 230 per year fully comp. The question is do I need twice the capacity for my 8 mile each way journey? Do they make effective commuters? Narrow enough to filter?

Edit: I'm talking Pan European here.
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[gbrand42]

Another vote for the Deauville here, perfect for your needs. Never had a problem being cut up at the lights, always get away first. Not hugely exciting admittedly, but not as bad as some people make out (usually those that have never ridden one in my experience). Done 8k in the last 8 months and it hasn't missed a beat or cost me loads to run. It does the job it was designed to do extremely well.
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[SQL]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-SV650-1000-GIVI-Luggage-Rack-support-with-fixing-instructions-K3-K8-/251856100011?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item3aa3cb1aab

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GIVI-TREKKER-52-MONOKEY-Aluminium-Motorcycle-Top-Box-Helmet-Case-Luggage-52-ltr-/181214310895?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2a3136f1ef

or

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renntec-Sports-Rack-In-Black-For-Suzuki-2004-SV650-SK4-7275B-/310853520526?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4860504c8e

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[Shaft]

[WD Forte]

I love shaftys
and if i was allowed to get another bike would probably go for a Divvy over a Pan for practical reasons
Often window shop Divvys on Ebay but am told off when I get caught
"one bike at a time!"
A few years ago would have suggested a CX, you couldn't give
them away back then and parts were cheap and plentiful.
Now they're 'classic' I'm told and stupid money for old shite
or ghastly, impractical, overpriced cafe racers.
Its just a cheap old bike to me, but properly serviced they're like cockroaches and just won't die.

I might clean it this year, depends........
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[evoboy]

NTV Revere 600/650.

Get a rack and top box on there.
Shaft drive.
Not exiting, but more so than a deauvillie due to less fairings and weight.
Cheaper to buy and insure.
Narrower for filtering.
Easier to service and work on. Rear wheel comes out far easier.

Mine gets 70mpg+ on a motorway run. (600cc version)

£500 would get you one with MOT easily.
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