Motorcycle Data Logger

[benjw7890]

Hi Everyone!

I was just wondering if I could get some help from some of you. I’m a student in my final year of university studying Computer Science, and am designing a prototype data logger for use with motorcycles to try and improve safety.

For the project I need to get some feedback as to the features that motorcyclists, other than myself, would like from a product of this kind. The system currently measures speed, location, lean angle, wheel locks/skids, altitude, and temperature when the system is used on a journey. After the journey you can remove the memory card from the system and review your journey through a website.

I’ve made a simple website mock-up showing a real journey, which allows you to see the types of information the system can log and let you visualise.

I would be very grateful visit my website and fill out the quick multiple-choice survey to help me. If you have any additional feedback please reply below.

Website: www.benjw.co.uk

Please use the ‘?’ icons on the website to find out about the features of each widget.

Unfortunately lean-angle data on the website is erroneous due to a bug in the software, and has since been fixed.

https://i57.tinypic.com/2exujad.jpg

[MarkJ]

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[mentalboy]

Actually - much better presented than the usual 'elp uz wiv mi projject'.
I did fill in your survey but it was somewhat limiting because halfway through I was asked why I would want a data logger - and quite frankly, I don't. I had to enter something in one of the boxes to be able to continue, which obviously skews 'results'.
Quite an interesting project to attempt but as for it's practicalities, I'm not sure.
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[Ribenapigeon]

I've wanted something similar and have thought about it but have yet to pull my finger out and actually learn how to use my RPi. A video logger would be good. something built into the bike maybe with wifi download of the days recordings.

The problem with loggers is the police and insurance companies would probably love us to have them. While technically interesting the whole future of vehicle logging systems is probably not a good thing a sits more nanny state H&S crap.

Riders would certainly like the ability to switch off any speed data.

How about airspeed data just for added geekyness?

[Ribenapigeon]

I just thought after filling in the survey. How about a horsepower meter? Rider can input the total weight of the bike including rider then acceleration data can be used to work out HP.

[WimbleHJR]

I did the survey as well.

I think while it might be interesting, it only really has use if there is a video reference as well and only then for a bit of fun.

In terms of a tool for learning how you messed up during a ride, on all of my near misses and my accident, I know exactly what I did wrong. I hope I've learned from it, but seeing stats on it probably wouldn't make any difference. I have occasionally watched video of near misses to see how close it was, but I think that probably tells me everything I need.


As already mentioned, would probably want the ability to switch off speed reporting.
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[Rogerborg]

Question 4 needs a checkbox for "Other", because "none of the above" interest me.

Spoiler: fuel economy.
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[ferrisio]

Or some kind of economy thing - selected gear vs rpm vs road speed etc. to give some idea of how efficiently you're riding for either a super-cheap commuterthon, or for a nutterbastard to make sure they are in full hooligan mode.
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[ScaredyCat]

That seems like a lot of additional electronics where a modern mobile phone would work. That's what I'm currently using and it includes lean angle and I've just added heart rate too. The only thing about heart rate that I've learned so far is that it's not a function of speed.

I process it all for video (clicky for bigger picture).

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/188253/_bcf/testimage-tiny.png

The aim is to do a tour of Scotland and have all video/track/biometrics sorted. "Just because" - if you're wondering why. Hopefully it'll all be sorted and the process of generating it all will be smoothed out by then. There's a load of post processing for the video, I had to setup my own OSM server because I got banned for downloading too many tiles while testing.

I do like your googley maps variant, something I've done before from data captured from the original TomTom Go.

Also interested in "Wheel locks" and "Wheel slips" and how you are measuring those. Always thought it a bit of a shame that bikes don't seem to have the equivalent of ODBII.

Heat map is an interesting idea too.


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[duhawkz]

Looks like your playing Doom or something and 113 is your health
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[duhawkz]

@OP

is the website going to be a public thing so other people could see my stats etc. or will all that be private.

because the very last thing I would want is a website which has the location of my bike, at various points through out the day there for all and sundry to see.

it would almost be a ready made shopping list for bike thieves, especially if has make and model info too.
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[Rogerborg]

[Iain.]

So basicly,

We're trying to re-make the free Pirelli Diablo superbiker app & overlay it with a gopro?

https://static.blogo.it/twowheelsblog/diablo-super-biker-pirelli-iphone-app/Diablo_Super_Biker_iPhone_app_01.jpg

Something like Torque already does this with a plugin and a cheap OBDII adaptor for the car?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RWIP9YlwI6g/hqdefault.jpg

The software already exists, works great and costs next to nothing...what we need is a £5-10 adaptor that's compatible with the bikes ECU and a suitable plugin.

[chris-red]

How will this 'improve safety'?
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[benjw7890]

[Rogerborg]

[ScaredyCat]

[chris-red]

[ScaredyCat]

[dolly3900]

I can see that this would be great for those of you who have specific track day bike (and cars for that matter).

Especially if you compete on any level, gives you the data on your lap of any given track, overlay that with the image of and you can see where the improvements can be made.

Have it coupled with an RF burst transmission system to get data back to the pits in real time and you'd have an invaluable bit of kit for the weekend warriors and semi pro's a like

Did not see anything about brake input front and rear, but might be useful.

hope this helps

Mike
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[Ribenapigeon]

A wireless hub system where you could fir additional sensors as you needed or wanted. A phone app could manage the system.

[Tarmacsurfer]

You all know as well as I do that the only reason this would ever get funded is so that insurance chimps can insist one is fitted and then use the logs to wriggle out of paying "because, innit".
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