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PostPosted: 19:14 - 11 Mar 2015    Post subject: Kawasaki ER5 warped rear drum Reply with quote

Hi guys,

So got my ER5 running again after the winter sleep and already got a problem.

When I first got it using the rear brake gave me uneven braking but now it's just awful.
I get strong pulsation from the pedal and bike is very jolty when breaking using the rear brake. Makes it hard to control actually.

I have checked the pads and they seem to be just fine so I can only assume the drum is warped.

What should I do? Get a new wheel? used?

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PostPosted: 19:35 - 11 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try sticking the bike on the centre stand and spin the wheel by hand, could be a knackered wheel bearing/ and or knackered sprocket. Rear drums can warp, you can have it skimmed at a machine shop if you don't want a second hand wheel. Unfortunately 2nd hand ones could also be warped - its the luck of the draw really.
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PostPosted: 09:54 - 12 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
I was quoted nearly £500 for a rear wheel from Kawasaki when i looked at a ER5 with the same problem as while ago, I read the steel brake liner is inserted into the alloy rear wheel and corrosion over time builds up in between and distorts the steel braking surface causing the pulsing.
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 12 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possible to get the drum skimmed relatively cheaply. Try a classic bike place.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 12 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very common.

We pay around £35 a wheel to have the loan bikes skimmed.
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 13 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could be a number of things..
Yes, it could be corrosion, it could be the wheel bearings.

From experience it can also happen because the brake surface is breaking up (the liner is only a few mm thick,) and from the rear brakr being set so the brakes come on too early - Then when the braking surface expands from heat, the brakes bind. This causes the brake surface/hub to ovalise taking a set which will cause the brakes to pulse.

It's very common in ER5s to find the hub has ovalled off. If you measure the diameter at 4 (min) preferably 6 points, it will tell you if this is the case.

Unfortunately, this isn't something that can be rectified easily, and tends to get worse and worse. You can skim, but the problem will come back due to making the liner thinner.
The only surefire way is to have the braking surface removed, the hub skimmed back to round and a new braking surface inserted.
Alternatively you can buy a new wheel.
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PostPosted: 07:34 - 13 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys for all the feedback. I will make some calls and see if anyone here is cardiff could skim the brake drum.
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 13 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

made some phone call, doesn't seem like anyone does brake drum skimming in Cardiff Sad

Buying a new wheel is stupidly expensive but getting a used one might have the exact same issue
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 13 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a read through these links, should be able to find someone to help. Clicky.
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 13 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iain. wrote:

We pay around £35 a wheel to have the loan bikes skimmed.


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PostPosted: 21:55 - 13 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alternatively you could find out what the problem is before spending money
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 14 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take the wheel off and firstly check shoes for wear and the bearings for play. If the bearings are ok mount a DTI (Clock Gauge) on the spindle and check for run out. if there is any eccentricity it needs skimming.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 14 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
Take the wheel off and firstly check shoes for wear and the bearings for play. If the bearings are ok mount a DTI (Clock Gauge) on the spindle and check for run out. if there is any eccentricity it needs skimming.


OK I took the wheel of and brake shoes are lovely with plenty of thread, bearings are fine too no play at all. So I can only assume it is warped drum.
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 14 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty certain that is your problem but you can not be certain until you measure it. You may be able to do it with a vernier or bore mike but DTI is best.
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 14 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
Pretty certain that is your problem but you can not be certain until you measure it. You may be able to do it with a vernier or bore mike but DTI is best.


Not in this case it isn't.

Not only do you need to know the difference at various points you also need to know the overall diameter to make sure it hasn't exceeded the safe limit or the brake may over-cam.
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 15 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Ariel Badger wrote:
Pretty certain that is your problem but you can not be certain until you measure it. You may be able to do it with a vernier or bore mike but DTI is best.


Not in this case it isn't.

Not only do you need to know the difference at various points you also need to know the overall diameter to make sure it hasn't exceeded the safe limit or the brake may over-cam.


Over-cam? Would you be able to tell me more?
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 23 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I found a nice wheel on ebay for £70.
The nearest place that could do brake drum skimming was in Aberystwyth, so to send the wheel get it skimmed and back would have cost me £100.

I hope this wheel is good, seems in very good condition. I'll post with updates.
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