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Speak to the people who your contract is with - either the insurance company, or the broker you dealt with.
We can have no way of knowing what the terms and small-print consist of, but whoever you are paying for this, should be able to find you a legal solution.
If you were to crash and injure me or a member of my family on an un-insured bike, I would not be pleased. ____________________ Honda Varadero XL125(V8)
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Two concurrent policies on one vehicle = illegal. Don't do it.
An overzealous insurance saleswoman once cancelled my policy with 4 days left on it as I'd bought a new policy to start the day after my current one ended, with their sister company. I was dumbfounded and she was stupid, but my initial point is valid. ____________________ My deviantArt gallery - My Youtube profile
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I'll tell you one thing. If you try to cancel the original policy, they'll try to charge you an extortionate admin fee for it. So I'd say nothing at all to the existing company. They tried to hump me for £70 when I sold my car with two weeks left to run on the insurance. I told them if that was the case, I'd decided not to sell it after all.
You putting them all on the same policy? Last time I did a quote, it was actually cheaper for me to put my two bikes on seperate policies, even without taking no-claims into consideration. I used my NCB on the most expensive one to insure and started a policy from scratch for the other.
Worth crunching some numbers in any case. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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MattB, I'm semi-certain it'd constitute insurance fraud if you tried to make a claim while two policies are running. Never mind not getting a payout at all if each company knows there's another policy running. Dodgy ground all round.
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By the way. My understanding is that it's not specifically illegal to have two policies running for the same vehicle.
What would be illegal would be if you tried to claim the same claim from two different companies, that would be fraud.
Most policies will have a disclaimer stating their cover is void if the vehicle is covered by another policy. That said, the letter of the law from the point of view of the road traffic act states you must have a certificate of motor insurance. If you're stopped by the police and have a certificate of motor insurance that theyu haven't cancelled (and they have to give notice of cancellation), you are legal.
If it were me, I'd just take out the new policy (assuming a multi-bike policy is best). If you're only going to be riding the new bike, any claim in the case of an accident would be soley on the new policy. Job jobbed.
Where you could run into issues is if one of the other bikes is stolen or catches fire. Then there could be argument between the insurers as to who is liable. What you'd need to be careful to do in that case is only attempt to claim off one of them. I suspect there would be a lot of to-ing and fro-ing if this happened but ultimately, I'd imagine a magistrate would order one or both of them to cough up.
Of course, if you're TPO, the above is irrelevant, take out the policy, only ride the new bike until the old policy expires. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Thanks Stinkwheel, given me food for thought right there.
Bit of a complicated one.
I'll be insuring: (Honda and Ducati on one policy at mo)
Honda CBR 600 (Used daily Mon-Fri at least)
Ducati 916 (Weekends/track)
Vincent Comet (Weekends)
I thought if I cancel policy and run new one on the 29th, as you say, I'd get a admin fee for it, and lose a years no claims probably.
All those 3 Fully comp is something silly like £200 so I'm not beating that (I've tried a few combinations and I'm chuffed with that) (27 with 11 years no claims)
By the way. My understanding is that it's not specifically illegal to have two policies running for the same vehicle.
Right ok, that's what I'm not sure about so I suppose I'll have to get confirmation from both policies.
If it were me, I'd just take out the new policy (assuming a multi-bike policy is best). If you're only going to be riding the new bike, any claim in the case of an accident would be soley on the new policy. Job jobbed.
I could do that actually, ride the 29th on the Vincent, then on 30th/31st ride the Honda XR 125 for work.
Thanks Stinkwheel. ____________________ Rides: Honda XR 125 ('03) Honda CBR 600F ('91), Ducati 916 Biposto ('95) |
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Have you called your current insurer and asked them if they could just put a note on your file that they no longer have an insurable interest beyond the 29th?
If they want to charge you for it, or argue the toss over the accrued NCD, then forget it.
Hang on... is it the Vincent that you want to ride at the weekend?
That's not on your current policy, so if you stack that bike in the 2 naughty days, then I can't see how it would be an issue. Just don't ride the Honda or Ducati or have them sunk, burned or taken a prize.
You may still be on a sticky wicket with the NCD unless, as stinkwheel has pointed out, you new policy doesn't concern itself with such things. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
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