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| .Chris. |
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 Posted: 20:10 - 24 Mar 2015 Post subject: Flat spot on tyre - MOT fail? |
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Tl;dr - will a flat spot on a tyre (from sitting deflated) cause an MOT failure?
I'm currently recommissioning a Honda Rebel 250 that's been sat for some while. Exactly how long, I'm not quite sure - possibly a decade if it ceased to be used when the last tax disc expired. When it came to me, both tyres were deflated but I pumped them up and they've stayed inflated fine. However on close inspection both tyres have potential problems.
The front tyre is quite badly distorted so I presume it needs replacing. Fortunately I have a new tyre of the correct size left over from my GN400, so that can replace the duff one.
The rear is a bit more of a grey area - it sits on the rim fine and at first glance has no defects. However when the wheel is spun, it's apparent that the tyre has a flat spot at one point. I presume this is from where the wheel has sat on the deflated tyre.
A couple of questions - is this likely to result in an MOT failure? The manual lists 'lumps, bulges or tears caused by separation or partial failure of its structure' as a reason for failure - would a flat spot like this be included in that?
I only ask as I'm not sure whether I'm going to keep the bike or sell it on for a bit of a profit after getting it MOTd. A new rear tyre would be between £40 and £65 depending on manufacturer, plus about another £10 for fitting and potentially the same again for an inner tube. All of which would eat into any eventual profit.
If I did have to replace it, what would people recommend? The tyre is a 130/90-15, and the new front will be a Continental Conti-Go. Oponeo (a website i've used before) have various options including a Maxxis M6103 Promaxx, Heidenau K65, Metzeler ME77 or a Bridgestone Exedra Max (which is Bridgestone's replacement for the OE tyre). Does anyone have any experience with any of these? ____________________ Chris
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It would be considered a 'defect' most likely.
It flat spot would become apparent when the tester puts the bike on the roller brake and the wheel is spun. ____________________ Suzuki GT250 x7------- Fazer 600------CB250RS------Aprilia Rally 70----- Bandit 600
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| evoboy wrote: | the wheel has to be spun to test the brakes, or, the bike ridden to test the brake effort. |
More what you'd call guidelines than actual rules.
If it's nobbed, it's nobbed, but it's a tubed tyre (it is, yes?) so I wouldn't write it off without giving it at least a chance to shape up.
That said, decade old rubber is pretty pikey.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Take it to an mot place that offers free re-test, if it passes wohoo, if not, get tyre and re-test for nothing. ____________________ Previously owned: Kawasaki KH125, Suzuki GP125, Suzuki GX 125, Honda CB125 TDC '83, Honda ntv 600, Kawasaki ER5, Kawasaki ZZR600, Aprilia RSV 1000 Mille
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We (the mot place I use and I) chanced to look this over Yesterday
Not a fail unless tester considers it dangerous but it is testers descression
My guy would fail an old tyre with a deformity as it is lightly to fail
He put a warning on a customers bike as the front tyre had a repair that seemed to be causing a deformity
Picked up on check over not on the roller brake test !! ____________________ Dave
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Bit of an update.
Took the front wheel and tyre in to be changed today. Whilst I was doing that I had a quick chat with one of the mechanics and he reckoned that a flat spot would only be a fail if really bad - otherwise pass and advise.
It's surprisingly difficult to capture the problem on camera - this is probably my best attempt. Hopefully that won't count as 'really bad' but we'll see.
After fitting the new chain yesterday I took the bike out for a quick spin to warm the oil up before a change and was quite pleasantly surprised by the ride. Does feel a little odd maneuvering at low speed - I've never ridden a cruiser before so presumably this is a consequence of the fork angle and wide, highish bars. There was more power than I was expecting - certainly better than how I remember my old CD250U, which has a very similar engine. Therefore I'm starting to lean towards keeping the bike, in which case I'll probably stick a new rear tyre on it at some point anyway. ____________________ Chris
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Old Thread Alert!
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