First SM 125cc

[reiniicc]

Hello everyone, this is my first post here. Im getting my A1 license this summer and I was looking for a 125cc supermoto. So I have found a Yamaha dt125, Honda XR125 XLR125 (I dont know what the difference is) Yamaha XT125 and Derbi Terra 125 it's not really a SM but it caught my eye. I really want a DT125 but since its a 2 stroke it needs more maintenance than the 4 strokes. I would like to know how much I would have to spend on it monthly, since I wouldn't be able to work as much during school time. My budget would be around 2k euro. Also if it helps I would be doing about 10-20 miles a day.

[DRZ4Hunned]

Four stroke would be wise if you're relying on it and have little mechanical knowledge. WR125's can be picked up for around £2k, a little more stylish than the XT/XR 'supermoto's too. Four strokes shouldn't cost much at all, 100+ mpg is achievable, maybe £50 for chain/sprockets and £10 for oil now and again.

A DT125 would be miles better though.

Welcome btw
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[reiniicc]

Thanks The problem is there are no WR125 here in Ireland. I haven't seen one anyway. So I guess its between the DT and XT

[Fladdem]

Welcome to the forum!

I commute by CRM 250, a two stroke on knobblies. No issues other than the dire fuel economy, 30MPG. I don't see why a two stroke would be any less reliable, it's a more simple engine, by default it is more reliable due to less moving parts to fail.

Terra's are cool, I would ride one. RE the XRL vs XLR, I think the XLR is the one to have, better sized wheels for tyre choices, different engine, I think? The XL looks better anyway.

The DTR 125 would be my weapon of choice every day, though. Cheap-ish, easy to work on, reliable, easy to de-restrict, not that you'd do that, though, it would be illegal. Great off-road, great on-road, quicker than any of the four strokes in the trailie 125 class. My mate got his DT dynoed at 26HP, IIRC, but it was quite difficult to use, and he didn't adjust the two stroke pump enough, or swap to pre-mix. That ended up wrote off parked in the back of a Saxo though.

I would grab an XT though, if I were you, you say you don't have much time for maintenance, remember though, four strokes need it too! Change the oil regularly, filter ever other oil change, keep the air filter clean, and check the valve clearances and cam chain every fourth oil change. May be a bit overkill but that's what I do on my TTR 250, which is along the same vain as an XT125, I change my oil every 1,000-1,500 miles though, the 125 could probably stretch to 2,000. Don't take my word as gospel, it's just a very rough guide.
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Current:1991 Honda MT50 (Soon to be a H100/MTX/MT5 hybrid), 1976 Honda Cub C70, 2005 Honda Varadero 125, 1993 Yamaha TTR250 Open Enduro , 2010 Road Legal Stomp YX140, 1994 Honda CRM 250 MK III, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 1992 Honda CB400 Super Four, Stomp T4 230, 1984 Honda H100s, 2009 Sym XS125K
Past:2003 Aprilia RS125, 1982 Kawasaki GPZ550(FREE BIKE!)
I'm having more fun than a well-oiled midget.

[dangerousdave]

DT125s would be more fun. However, have to be careful when buying one as they are often tuned and thrashed. Then not correctly maintained becoming a bit of a time bomb before the engine self-destructs.

If you are looking for the cheapest bike to run then it would be an XT125 or XR. Not so much to worry about as the engines are reliable as long as they are not run out of oil.
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[reiniicc]

Yeah I think XT is the best for now. It might not be the fastest and stuff, but hey in the long term ill be able to save a bit more and see where it goes Thanks for the replies.